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 GreatDane 
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I believe the guys at backtothefuturetrading bought it.

That's right! I hadn't recalled that, but that does sound right. And oh-so-apropos, if I might add.

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 BTTFT Michael 
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Thanks for the "oh so-apra-po" comment, but we didn't buy Sniper Scalping.

We have absolutely zero affiliation with them. Please when you post these things online, consider that if you write something that's incorrect like this, it has the potential to run people's lives. When you post incorrect information like this - no one comes back and corrects it, and when it comes to really important matters like this.

Next time ask, "Did you buy SniperScalping?" The answer would have been, we never gave anyone a penny at ATW, or SniperScalping for their business.

Sorry if this comes across harshly, but this is quite serious. We don't tell people we're trading live, we don't post trading results, we don't mislead people - and follow every CTFC guideline required. You can hate us personally or not like the system, that's fine- but please be accurate when you post this kind of stuff.

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Thanks for the "oh so-apra-po" comment, but we didn't buy Sniper Scalping.

We have absolutely zero affiliation with them. Please when you post these things online, consider that if you write something that's incorrect like this, it has the potential to run people's lives. When you post incorrect information like this - no one comes back and corrects it, and when it comes to really important matters like the CTFC - you put everyone in legal jeopardy, Big Mike not withstanding.

Next time ask, "Did you buy SniperScalping?" The answer would have been, we never gave anyone a penny at ATW, or SniperScalping for their business.

Sorry if this comes across harshly, but this is quite serious. We don't tell people we're trading live, we don't post trading results, we don't mislead people - and follow every CTFC guideline required. You can hate us personally or not like the system, that's fine- but please be accurate when you post this kind of stuff.

Firstly, I've been in your room when you have traded live - or claimed to. I have recordings if you'd like me to provide them. My comment was based on my experience with that.

Secondly, see attached images re: the lack of association between you/BTTF and ATW and their (your?) Sniper program. Perhaps yours was a different Sniper program that you "took over" after having had a relationship with ATW, and it's a coincidence. I'll leave it at that re: my comments and their veracity. I'll let you sort out with the CFTC or NFA re: the intricacies of your involvement - or lack of - with ATW.

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Fantastic screenshots. As I said above, we never purchased Sniper Scalping. The program, the software was always and is always always shall be someone else's. In fact, 2 of your images are emails relating to our company presenting our software to Sniper Scalping customers, and have nothing to do with our marketing the software for them.

Please send me whatever recordings you have, I'd love to review them. My email is [email protected]

We've never traded live, or insinuated we traded live during a demonstration . If you read the review Emmett Moore made of us at Trading schools. Org you'll read for yourself he gave us low ratings because we never traded live. I took issue with what you said, which was that we bought ss.com. That never happened.

We marketed and demoed the product for several months believing that it had potential, having met customers that were using it and liked it, and discovered later interest in it was non existent and then dropped it. I wish we'd never gone near it now.

We had no idea what these dirt bags had done, and want nothing to do with them or their stink. I regret ever having met them, or worked with them. I feel sick about what they were accused of. My issue again, is not with you, but your statement that we bought them. That never happened.

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BTTFT Michael View Post
Thanks for the "oh so-apra-po" comment, but we didn't buy Sniper Scalping.

We have absolutely zero affiliation with them. Please when you post these things online, consider that if you write something that's incorrect like this, it has the potential to run people's lives. When you post incorrect information like this - no one comes back and corrects it, and when it comes to really important matters like this.

Next time ask, "Did you buy SniperScalping?" The answer would have been, we never gave anyone a penny at ATW, or SniperScalping for their business.

Sorry if this comes across harshly, but this is quite serious. We don't tell people we're trading live, we don't post trading results, we don't mislead people - and follow every CTFC guideline required. You can hate us personally or not like the system, that's fine- but please be accurate when you post this kind of stuff.


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Fantastic screenshots. As I said above, we never purchased Sniper Scalping. The program, the software was always and is always always shall be someone else's. In fact, 2 of your images are emails relating to our company presenting our software to Sniper Scalping customers, and have nothing to do with our marketing the software for them.

Please send me whatever recordings you have, I'd love to review them. My email is [email protected]

We've never traded live, or insinuated we traded live during a demonstration . If you read the review Emmett Moore made of us at Trading schools. Org you'll read for yourself he gave us low ratings because we never traded live. I took issue with what you said, which was that we bought ss.com. That never happened.

We marketed and demoed the product for several months believing that it had potential, having met customers that were using it and liked it, and discovered later interest in it was non existent and then dropped it. I wish we'd never gone near it now.

We had no idea what these dirt bags had done, and want nothing to do with them or their stink. I regret ever having met them, or worked with them. I feel sick about what they were accused of. My issue again, is not with you, but your statement that we bought them. That never happened.

Hi there Michael



I happened to come across this thread and I have read the latest few posts.

I just wanted to clarify something in my mind: you stated above that you "have absolutely zero affiliation with them". I presume 'them' refers to Sniper Scalping, is that correct?



In the next post, however, when you say


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we never purchased Sniper Scalping. The program, the software was always and is always always shall be someone else's. In fact, 2 of your images are emails relating to our company presenting our software to Sniper Scalping customers, and have nothing to do with our marketing the software for them.

The tone of the post does really sound like there is a relationship of some sort with Sniper Scalping.



Where is it that I'm getting confused?

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Fantastic screenshots. As I said above, we never purchased Sniper Scalping. The program, the software was always and is always always shall be someone else's. In fact, 2 of your images are emails relating to our company presenting our software to Sniper Scalping customers, and have nothing to do with our marketing the software for them.

Please send me whatever recordings you have, I'd love to review them. My email is [email protected]

We've never traded live, or insinuated we traded live during a demonstration . If you read the review Emmett Moore made of us at Trading schools. Org you'll read for yourself he gave us low ratings because we never traded live. I took issue with what you said, which was that we bought ss.com. That never happened.

We marketed and demoed the product for several months believing that it had potential, having met customers that were using it and liked it, and discovered later interest in it was non existent and then dropped it. I wish we'd never gone near it now.

We had no idea what these dirt bags had done, and want nothing to do with them or their stink. I regret ever having met them, or worked with them. I feel sick about what they were accused of. My issue again, is not with you, but your statement that we bought them. That never happened.

What software did you "take over"? And why is it the link in your email goes to an infusionsoft.atw site to download it? Just in case that was a coincidence, I googled infusionsoft.atw and attached is the first hit. fwiw.

Here's one snippet (happy to share here) where someone who sounds incredibly like you, Michael, says, "1121.50 we are short in the countertrend model." "And I made money on the crude trade. That's six, six ticks. Done."

You ever hear that saying, about when you're in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging?

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Of course there was such an alliance.

Here is a screenshot of a video that I have of the BTTF/Sniper Scalping alliance/partnership. It's dated February 18, 2015.


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A thread with anything BTTF Michael has to say is a losing proposition and will spiral out of control. My advice is just to move on.

He will never admit defeat especially when it comes to Back To The Future Trading. His cat will always be blacker than your cat.

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Thanks Jack, that's what I thought you were referring to.

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Of course there was such an alliance.

Here is a screenshot of a video that I have of the BTTF/Sniper Scalping alliance/partnership. It's dated February 18, 2015.



I have been "digging" in my mails and found this mail.
I post it as screenshot

Everybody can make hir / her own conclusion

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