1. How long was you a member of NFT for?
I became a member on December 2010 until the site shutdown around September or October 2011. Although the last three months of that period were very confusing, because Henry started trading the ES and he was struggling with that market precisley because on July, when he started trading the ES, the volatility soared and there was only a trending market mainly because of sell-offs.
2. How long have you been trading for?
At NFT we went through a process, at first we only read mental material, then we started watching at the basic videos, then we started doing historicals, afterwards we started watching the live market, but without doing any trading deccision. I started watching the live market excactly a year ago on april of 2011, but as I said, we do not trade yet. We only make calls about the direction or movements of the markets, little by little we move forward signaling possible trades with arrows until we start trading on SIM. I started trading on SIM around the end of May, although soon enough I started feeling frustrated because a month later, the volatility increased a lot, and the speed of the market also increased considerabily. It was until september when the markets started to calm down, when I could apply the knowledge in a better way, although I never stopped watching the markets and trying to SIM trade with that very volatile and fast market of those days.
3. How has you trading been going, are you a profitable trader?
My SIM trading is going well when there are pivoting markets, but I struggle when there are trending markets days. On Febraury 14th of this year I started to keep statistics. My win/loss trade ratio is about 40%. But my payout ratio is around 6:1. So I have very black numbers. The win/loss trade ratio could look low, but as you know this is because you may give some gifts to the market let say two or three two losing trades to accumulate around $200 of loss per contract, but then you have a single winning trade that gives you $500 per contract and you are done for the day finishing with $300 profit. In two months I raised $9000 of profits trading on SIM only with one contract. And this profit could have been higher, but I also went through the stage of moving my stop loss, and some losing trades were big. I have started to overcome that, although sometimes I still move the stop loss more than I should according to the system. And this is because we go through a mental stage that we do not want to accept the loss and we do not want to be wrong about our decision of taking the trade.
4. If NFT was still online, would you continue to be a member?
Yes, I will continue being a member if NFT was still online, if Henry would have not stolen all that money. I think the method is a good method and it works, but it is also confirmed that it is a pivoting market method. You still can use it on trending days and you still can be profitable on those days, but as I said in the other messages it can give you several false signals to enter a trade against the trend making you think the market is about to reverse, but that does not happen. Thatīs why I want to have a better insight to identify those trending days and especially to know how to trade those days using the method, or even better, what setups to expect to take the trend. I feel I only need to improve on that to start trading with a cash account.
AS you said you must adjust your tick charts according to the volatility of the market or the type of market you are trading. For instace at this moment the 144 tick chart is very good for the TF since the markets right now are not moving fast. But for the ES you cannot trade with a 144 tick chart, you should trade with a 377 or even 610 tick chart. When the market was very volatile and fast on July and August of 2011, the tick chart to trade the TF should have been increased to a 233 or 377 tick chart. Besides your main tick chart that you use to trade, we also have higher time frames charts as support, but this is exactly my question, which time frame chart I must watch when there is a trending day.
As I said thatīs why Henry had a lot of troubles when he started trading the ES. He started trading that right at the moment the volatility soared and there were only trending days, and he kept applying the NFT method which is more a pivoting market method. You can still use this method for trending days, but it needs some adjustments and thatīs exactly what I want to figure out.
How did you learn this method if you were not a NFT member?
Regarding your english do not worry. My native language is not english, so for sure I am making more grammar or spelling mistakes than you.
I do not know if you would like to discuss this in a closer manner, let say through skype or something like that, in this case we can send each other our skype id through private messages.
Thanks again and itīs been very interesting exchanging this threads with you.
Brilliant yes this discussion is getting very interesting,
I would be more than happy to give you my private contact details, ill PM you now
We can carry this convo on there, but i will give you my view on your issues regarding these trending days and how to look fo the right signals so other people can benefit from this
I dont know your routines ect and how NFt taught you to start you day off, but i have developed my own routine
I do about 1 hr 30 min of prep in the morning, i go through all my charts from a daily to the 144t. Like you i am looking at multiple tick charts ranging from 144t to a 6765t
I look for MAJOR chart patterns and what is likley to be the MAJOR direction for the day, i also play close attention to the MCADbb`s on the 2 largest time frames. If we are over sold/ overbought and were we are on these MACDbb`s. What i mean by this is i basically look at the swings on the MCADbb`s. If you open you charts up and zoom out you can see the average true rang of the MACDbb`s and were we are likely to see a turning point in the market. here is a example below to try explain what i mean
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Bit of a crappy diagram but you should see my point :-D
Basically if you play attention to the MCAD when you zoom out you can see likely point were we have reversed before and are likley to do again, i would like to get a developer to plot a ATR for the average over sold and over bought swings on the indicator. When i see we are at these point it normally signals we are going to see a reversal and if we get it we normally get a strong move up of down giving us a trending day in the direction of the reversal on the larger MCAD time frames. I also use some other larger time frames to identify were we are in the market and what is likley to be the possible moves for the day...this is going off the NFT methods though and i dont want to mess you brain up with what you understand and have been taught already. but this is what works for me
But when I am trading, I dont normally try and take trades against the direction of the 4181 and 6765 unless we at these turning point and we have a reversal pattern. Then I know we have a huge move on our hands too if all lines up
We can carry this on SKYPE if you like and any one els who is interested I dont mind if they want to join in too, more the merrier we can all learn together
And a message for everyone on here, DONT MOVE YOU STOPS!!!!!!!
If you get in a bad habit now, it will screw you over like it did me. All you are doing my moving you stops is programming your sub conscious brain to trigger you to move you stops when the market is near them leaving you to fail epically and lose a shead load of cash and it is VERY hard to reprogram you mind not to do this. I had to go into a nuclear World War 3 with myself and brain to get over this so im warning you now
NO MATTER WHAT NEVER EVER EVER EVER move you stop no matter what, on SIM/LIVE just dont ever do it
So easy to say but so frigin hard to do
" I will follow my rules, I will take my stops, I will be disciplined and i will work with the market....NOT AGAINST IT! Professional mind control is the key"
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Go to Horst's site and watch the Free Starter Videos. They have good content, and you can see the 'ole Master, Henry, at work. Beside the links from the site, Horst e-mails more of Henry's old videos upon request. These should be framed in Gold and archived in the Traders Hall Of Fame. Go thru Horst's site and find the request link. Consider being a student of Horst's to learn this method. Heny was a real Master, but a horrible teacher. What he taugt is the best you'll ever see in Technical Analyis (my, not so humble-sorry-opinion). This is the only method I ever saw that claimed you could trade with a precognitive vision. Well, they proved it to me. But hey, I'm just a Duck and I eat bugs and slugs.....ulp!
I'm not a friend of Horst. I don't even know him and I have nothing to gain from his success.
Thanks Trader Duck! I've looked at Horst's site. A couple of folks who took his training say that he does not allow students to record the training sessions. Also, there's not training materials / trading plan. Either you can take good notes on your screen 2) you have a good memory to remember all he teaches for $5K. I would have no problem paying that if it meant I walked away with training materials or recordings of the sessions.
I'm also quite surprised that Horst seems to be the only one teaching the NFT method especially if it is that great. I have looked at Nexgen, but don't quite consider it the NFT method.
Is there anyone else out there who is as successful or close to Horst using the NFT method?
Is there anyone who can share a trading plan/rules?
be careful of your wishes, see that you trying too hard to get this info.
I almost signed up with nft, had a trial, got some info. Then i came across, on completely different forum, a guy that has gone through the course. We talked and i joined his private group, that he formed with one other guy that was at nft's course. They told me a lot of things, but they were struggling with the results. They wanted to put everything on one chart and not have to use fibonacci tools?? So I actually helped with them in redefining their main indicator, as they were on completely wrong way. Anyhow, I do not think they achieved their goal as I moved on, and am pretty sure that the use some combination of original indicators.
I used to watch Horst's videos all the time and noticed some differences between his entry time and what data was showing, ie it was impossible to enter at levels he was showing during the business hours. That did not stop me from watching others but I was more cautious. My understanding is that he enters at the 'deeps' (75,89%), he looks at formation of pivots and price patterns, and of course, the higher time frames' fibonaccis. Henry's earlier videos talked about the distance of the dot from the rail, which maybe used for continuation/closing of positions.
I hope it helps. good luck on your journey
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