I think Swisstrader does great service to futures.io (formerly BMT) community by giving feedback on vendor's real capabilities, not very often we can hear that.
By the way, I don't understand how come FT is not marked as a vendor with his newly established Order flow insiders group.
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Great advice from dom / swisstrader1 side kick - are you guys a "tag-team" together? LOL. Do you actually trade or just blame others too? Also, get your facts straight since I do not have any newly established group and there is no solicitation for any group on futures.io (formerly BMT). Sorry pal, everything I set up for order flow tracking was set up in 2009 or 2010 and there is not any new groups.
Also, get your facts straight since I do not have any newly established group
Not exactly true Chris, I received this email the other week so you do have new group.
( some text has been removed as I do not want to be seen as advertising This vendors material)
From: info <info@FulcrumTrader.com>
Sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:38
Subject: Check out the Private OFI Group Website - Also, the UPGRADED Intraday Scalping Entries With Order Flow class starts Monday!
After a review of trader*survey information,*I decided to set up a new course to specifically detail intraday scalp entries.* For most retail traders they seem to*be looking for simplistic intraday scalping methods, and that is actually not a bad idea in my opinion.* Mastering the ability to target small intraday moves, with a minimum 2:1 Reward to Risk*based entry, is a smart initial approach.* If a retail trader can build initial success from this capability they can*branch out into other longer term trading styles (as they are dynamically building their account size).* To address this subject, I have designed*a brand new*live 4 day special training*course to target a wide range of scalping entries.* Many of the scalp trade entries I will be presenting at the live event are geared to the order flow based trader, but there will be some new price action only*based*entries too.* Here is a listing of some of the key subjects that will be covered at the live event;
Also, those who attend the 4 day special live event will be set up with membership to the Order Flow Insiders Group*(private website with forum and mini-courses video page).* This is the same private website where I will be downloading and adding the*special event videos once produced (so you can review later at your convenience).* Once a member of the OFI Group*make sure you take a look at the new Small Account Trader*mini-course within the videos section - where I take a $1500 account to over $15,000 in gains in under a month (as shown in all the brokerage statements).* I go over the day to day trades and brokerage statement review to show what is possible with even a small account starting point.* Many traders have expressed a lot of*exceptional feedback from this mini-course so don't miss it.**Added BONUS --->**I also have a 5 day Cumulative Delta Volume*Trading mini-course that was recorded and*is now uploaded to the OFI Group*video page - as a new member of the OFI Group*you will have full access to this mini-course.
This special event*will be set in an interactive format from 08:30 am to 11:00 am central time each day so you can ask questions during the sessions (GoToWebinar chatroom).* I will be presenting excellent information*that many of you have never seen before, and I like interaction to stimulate the presentation of ideas! *If you are interested in securing your place at this limited space event just let me know right away by email. *Once I receive your special event request email, I will send out a paypal invoice for the ******* special event fee (this includes*your OFI Group*membership).* If you have any additional questions just let me know at: info@FulcrumTrader.com
Order Flow Insiders Group
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Chris, I do not know how you have your entities and groups legally set up, but the question is: do you make any money by selling trading-related products or services that anyone here could purchase? If so, you are a vendor, and should be labeled as such. Perhaps by some letter of the law you are not technically a vendor, but in principle you are, and everyone knows you are, so why do you resist labeling yourself as such?
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As I said before, the OFI Group was set up in the past back in 2010 so it is nothing new and that was my point. Also, no I do not make money off that site any longer but I have added new content to the site and will continue to do so occasionally.
I don't care if I am labeled as a vendor or not...obviously if anyone who sold trading related products at some point will always be known for that going forward. Each trader can decide on their own if they want to use the method or tools the vendors present.
As I have already stated, I currently only add content to the very small membership site with private access. I let those who run the site/server and run website admin handle any revenue generated for their time and cost of maintaining the site. I don't expect those running a site and paying for their time/expenses of running the site to do it for free.
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I find it interesting that one time you say you never traded for a prop firm/managed futures etc. and then suddenly you confirm it. By the way, Switzerland is not part of the EU ;-)!
Ohhh, the platform was the reason that you lost money faster than anyone else we have ever seen?! And it was also the platform that made you average down everytime the market hit a new low? The platform moved the stops and instead of taking a stop you added some more? Now I understand the problem: It was not you, it was the platform LOL.
So when you blew up JXXX´s account which was at Velocity, what happend there? Also the platform?
Dude nobody ever said that a trader doesnt take losses but have you ever heard about money & risk management? How good was yours when you blew up (losing ALL) his account?
You find it odd that I "bitch around in forums"?? Man, check out the date. This is about 3 years ago when you traded for us and we fired you after about one week because of your maniac trading! There was not one single post from me until I say Ray Barros compain about you for not fullfilling your agreement with him about a year ago. When I read about trading vendors like you (I dont care if you are maybe not selling something now, but im sure you will have a "comeback") who really can not trade themself but sell others their "education" it makes me feel like throwing up... How can people like you live with yourself?
And dont worry about me, because I never sold any education in trading or anyhting like that so I could be the worst trader on the planet (ummm ooops that spot is already taken ) it wouldnt matter! You are the one that is acting like that super duper trader so why dont you post a live trading statement of your account showing that at least now you are profitable?
I dont think anyone is interested in seeing my trading statement which currently shows a 10% drawdown...
Anyway, I wish you well Chris. Hopefully you will change your view on life and that is not about ripping off others (at least I think Ray Barros can afford the loss with you) but helping others... Maybe you have already started to change by not selling trading stuff anymore, I certainly hope so! Let the trading education be handled by real traders like FT71, BigMike and others (isnt it interesting those people dont charge anything for their help?)
I think it is fair with straight forward questions and opinions regarding ethics and so on on the forum, but I think parts of this discussion has gone past that and into what we in Norway call "drittkasting", meaning throwing dirt.
Arrogance and dirt throwing is not good energy for the forum, and I would expect from other members to not condone such no matter what level of frustration, if that is.
“If you wish to see the truth, then hold no opinions for or against anything.” - Hsin Hsin Ming
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