$4K sorry I do not think I would agree, but we all do what we must do. Read my post above FREE room from 9-12 every day but Friday with charts and DOM. Trading calls with full review of every call and education. Ask as much as you wish till you are blue in the face. To me that resonable. But I might be wrong what do I know...
In my trading room, trades are called out BEFORE they enter them, they call out with explaining why they will enter a trade, and then you can prepare and follow and enter THE SAME TIME AS THEY Do. LIVE. I have never seen them taking a trade without talking before about it.
Reading the above room, if you can't even follow what she's doing, what's the use of that room ???
I have paid 3k to TheTradingZone eMini Day Trading, another 3k for a spagetti system running on tradestation and also wired 10k to www.pipmonster.com in 2005 to have them trade it for me. Subsequently, I have seen quite a number of stuff but i am finally happy with the 3k costing mentoring course of bill mcdowell. i spent 1200 on simon's futuresfx.ca which is just gathering dust.
i value your advice like i value each advise from all comrades sharing the trenches. i personally wont touch tradershelpdesk. it uses spagetti indicators and for that reason, i wont touch it. it might be free but i will let noobies touch and toy around with it.
Plus I will ONLY look at anything where the author/vendor publishes a tradelog of setups that meet the system's rules each day. Other than that, I wont waste my valuable time on anything except maybe latter day revisions of AHG
I had a trial in her room. Though stayed there for two days only.
During this time she called very aggressive scalp calls. But few times by the time she gave the entry details price was already at the take profit point. I noticed a couple of times if I entered I would lose. But she never returned to her called trades, if she stopped out or took profit and at which point you never know.
I liked that she gives signals typing in text chat and does not talk too much, only necessary things. I do not know what is the reason, their software or microphone, but the sound quality is rather poor in the room. If she calls scalp trades, I think they should warn by some sound to indicate appearing possible long positions and short immediately when they appear (like puretick did with their spooky sounds) and then type in text chat more details like t/p price and so on. In this case you will not be left with entry details when it is time to take profit.
She gives some key prices and analysis before a trading day.
Well in overall I would give it another try probably later, it is not so bad.
Hi Nqcruiser - thanks for the post. I see that you mentioned a course with bill mcdowell. Are you still in his room? How was the mentoring? Is it successful? I'm recently debating whether to join or not but I do have a few questions left.
Here are some facts about Naturus so anyone reading this can make a more informed decision about her and her services at naturus.com. I want to make absolutely clear that I have nothing against Naturus and the facts below are not meant to bias a potential subscriber, or current subscriber, in any way but rather solely to inform.
I will first disclose that I have a past history with Naturus. Naturus ("Nat" as she liked to be called) is a Chinese lady now in her late 30's or early 40's. Naturus is not her real name and that picture of the woman on her website is not her. When I knew her, she lived in Toronto in a small apartment. Her husband was older and he couldn't work so money was tight. She gets extremely defensive if anyone questions her integrity or demands proof of her claims (such as posting a brokerage statement).
Nat will NEVER reveal her own private trades because she doesn't trade for her own account or anyone's account. In fact, at the time I knew her, she confessed she didn't have an account with ANY futures broker or an investment account of any kind. She had tried trading in the past and lost money at it. Since she herself is not a successful ES trader and couldn't afford to lose any capital she decided to make money by providing a subscription service to ES traders with her charting, tools, and calls. She asked several traders to help her start naturus.com but when they found out that she wasn't herself actually trading, they decided they wouldn't participate.
Having said the above, anyone is free to open a website and sell whatever they want, even if what they sell is making ES trading calls. And Nat is a master at that with the "trading plan", the "focus levels", the "nat line", etc., products all designed as a complete package hitting on the key features of successful trading to get you to subscribe. That's what her mission is...to get you to subscribe, interract with her tools, and listen to her calls not to prove to you what trades she is taking. (As a side note, she is known for having posted fake trades in text based chat rooms.)
If she makes money making the calls and a subscriber makes money employing her calls then it's a win win...if not...well, probably not wise to subscribe. I can tell you unequivocally that she did not eat her own cooking. Her site infers a subscriber, assuming the subscriber trades everything according to what Nat calls, could earn gobs of money everyday. Is this deceptive, unrealistic (to good to be true), or even possible? One has to decide for him or herself if considering subscribing to naturus.com services.
Here's a little hint for any of you interested in the foundation of her approach, it's a slightly modified version of George Angell's LSS trading method.
I hope this helps to inform. Good luck and good trading to all!
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