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KongZanaTrading live room plus strategy

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Let me be very clear I trade my account and VK doesn't trade for me or vice-versa.

I go in the room not to look for shadow trader or signal caller. I am there to learn and use the Algos and equip myself so that I can trade independently

He made no promise to me or makes any promise to anyone. VK has lossing trades and lossing days however his loss and profits are for him to keep and makes no difference to my capital

I trade on own account and yes my bad trait is greediness and I leave a lot more money than I make on the table

I am working on it and the method and teaching has given me lot more confidence and this is a journey and we all continue to learn

Old school members like to trade off the DOM and I don't even use DOM.

Sharmas

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why doesn't he show his actual trading DOM so that his entries and exits are seen perfectly clearly> obviously it is part of his marketing to show when he is in profit as your screen shot shows.


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And if he does start showing a live DOM, and actual account details on daily basis, let us know> I will jrejoin and give an update of my experience then.

I have no skin in this debate, and have no idea whether this site is a good one or not. I think it is usually best to be cautiously skeptical of anyone who offers to show you how to trade for a fee.

But I don't understand why you think whether he shows a DOM matters one way or another. You do not need to use a DOM to enter trades in NT; my impression is that many, perhaps most, NT traders use Chart Trader because it lets you enter trades right on a price chart. Other posters have said that this guy uses Chart Trader in NT to enter his trades, which certainly would eliminate any need to have a DOM up for any reason.

The world is full of people who are faking it and looking for your money, and I don't know (and am not that curious, frankly) if he is one of them or not. But not showing a DOM, or even having one up on-screen, does not matter one way or another to the question. He doesn't need one in order to enter trades, nor does anyone else.

Bob.

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VK reaching out to Teach


Members

If you want to attend here is the link to the training VK is going to run on Saturday.

http://kongzanatrading.clickwebinar.com/448185325/register


Sharmas

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I have no skin in this debate, and have no idea whether this site is a good one or not. I think it is usually best to be cautiously skeptical of anyone who offers to show you how to trade for a fee.

But I don't understand why you think whether he shows a DOM matters one way or another. You do not need to use a DOM to enter trades in NT; my impression is that many, perhaps most, NT traders use Chart Trader because it lets you enter trades right on a price chart. Other posters have said that this guy uses Chart Trader in NT to enter his trades, which certainly would eliminate any need to have a DOM up for any reason.

The world is full of people who are faking it and looking for your money, and I don't know (and am not that curious, frankly) if he is one of them or not. But not showing a DOM, or even having one up on-screen, does not matter one way or another to the question. He doesn't need one in order to enter trades, nor does anyone else.

Bob.

no chart entries, no DOM entries. With a 2 UniRenkoBarType in a vola market its not possible to entry manually. VK use some Strategy Entries which work very well

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I am not sure what you are saying. I dont care if he uses a dom or shows entries in another way. I actually use algotrader myself or enter on tws directly. I simply used " dom" as a generic term for showing actual entries. The only " entries " i heard when i was in his room were spoken words saying " there might be a reversal here" and other vague ideas. And e repeating phrases like " take profits". " those of you who are in this trade ".. it is like all the other con rooms i have joined. The vagueness of the mod and rara of other members makes for a cult like experience where members assume the mod is making money and they only need to decipher his genius, of which he is so giving.
Unless actual live entries , using real money are shown by the mod i will assume it is a magicians game with the aim of getting newer traders to pony up the $299 a month.


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Bob
I am not sure what you are saying. I dont care if he uses a dom or shows entries in another way. I actually use algotrader myself or enter on tws directly. I simply used " dom" as a generic term for showing actual entries. The only " entries " i heard when i was in his room were spoken words saying " there might be a reversal here" and other vague ideas. And e repeating phrases like " take profits". " those of you who are in this trade ".. it is like all the other con rooms i have joined. The vagueness of the mod and rara of other members makes for a cult like experience where members assume the mod is making money and they only need to decipher his genius, of which he is so giving.
Unless actual live entries , using real money are shown by the mod i will assume it is a magicians game with the aim of getting newer traders to pony up the $299 a month.

OK, sorry to have misunderstood you. I haven't gone to the site and so I don't really know one way or another, so I probably shouldn't be expressing an opinion.

I did gather that he does show his entries, based on what others have said. If not, that could be a problem.

For me, the bottom line is that I am skeptical, but it is fine with me if someone finds value there, as several people have said they have done. If I'm not certain that there is any issue with the site, I think it is best for me to just pass on and not make assumptions about its legitimacy or lack of it. Yes, many sites are not valuable, but if someone finds it worthwhile, and has their eyes open, then that is their decision. The question is whether those who use it can make money, which is a cut and dried issue, the kind that gets decided pretty quickly. If they can, then power to them (and I assume they will post about it here.) If not, they are full-grown adults and can do whatever they like.

So I'll bow out, without making any judgments pro or con.

Bob.

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Recorded VK Webinar link from Saturday 01-09-2016


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Members

If you want to attend here is the link to the training VK is going to run on Saturday.

http://kongzanatrading.clickwebinar.com/448185325/register


Sharmas

I recorded Webinar, here is the link for downloading and watching:

https://mega.nz/#!2wxwgBTb!5ClBvJLOWq0-EgwOmZkPuoIzIlfFy2TTh1e1Zo5nyCw

Cheers,

G.

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So far things have been going well and the strategies have been delivering great results.

Here is what VK has achieved so far this week

Follow the TREND not so called "Experts"
2016 10 Days Cycle #4
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, NQ, TF +$2,812
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, TF, NQ +$9,368
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, TF, NQ +$5,563
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, TF, NQ +$1,568
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL +$5,257
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL, TF, NQ +$2,667
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL +$1,043
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL, TF +$17,516
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL, TF, NQ +$10,024
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance -
Total P/L this cycle +$55,818

Sharmas

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Hi Sharmas
Those are some crazy numbers based on one single indicator, are they real? What's RT and Sim? To get those numbers I am going to assume you are doing the same in his room.
When someone is in his room, do you see every trade? Sorry, for asking clarification, but those are @BigMike/Tigers numbers.


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So far things have been going well and the strategies have been delivering great results.

Here is what VK has achieved so far this week

Follow the TREND not so called "Experts"
2016 10 Days Cycle #4
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, NQ, TF +$2,812
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, TF, NQ +$9,368
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, TF, NQ +$5,563
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, CL, GC, TF, NQ +$1,568
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL +$5,257
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL, TF, NQ +$2,667
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL +$1,043
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL, TF +$17,516
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance - DAX, GC, CL, TF, NQ +$10,024
Daily goal of $1,000 - Today's performance -
Total P/L this cycle +$55,818

Sharmas



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I believe from past postings that VK stops trading live when he hits targets and then continues on sim. So the results do look very good, but he's not banking that, if I recall correctly.

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