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Today we get a letter showing some sort of trading matrix showing a dozen profitable trades, but whether this has any basis in the room I have no idea.

In that same email he also has links to screen shots of his NT account performance tab

Here it is from today:

https://gallery.mailchimp.com/77d87dd3004b4c3249405ae98/images/ef6c22ba-f850-4ff3-99e3-b38d25ae0403.jpg

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I checked out this room this week and few months back. These trades in the summary I never saw them occur or they occurred before the room opened.

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Sorry for the possibly dumb question but what's C2 ??

Collective2.com a site where one can establish a trading record without using real money. But anyone who is running a chatroom should be obligatory because:

1. It is cheap advertisement.
2. It gives some credibility and record to show even though it is simulated trades.
3. People could subscribe to the system and automatically follow it.
4. Extra profit from subscribers...

etc.etc.

Now if the system is a fake one, there is a very obvious reason why not to have the system listed on C2....

After reading the responses from the last few hours, I am 100% sure the guy is fake and he is manipulating the results...

Too good to be true, so it is not....

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Collective2.com a site where one can establish a trading record without using real money. But anyone who is running a chatroom should be obligatory because:

1. It is cheap advertisement.
2. It gives some credibility and record to show even though it is simulated trades.
3. People could subscribe to the system and automatically follow it.
4. Extra profit from subscribers...

etc.etc.

Now if the system is a fake one, there is a very obvious reason why not to have the system listed on C2....

After reading the responses from the last few hours, I am 100% sure the guy is fake and he is manipulating the results...

Too good to be true, so it is not....

I`m not a tech kinda guy, so I have no clue if NT results can be altered (I am guessing they could be if someone had knowledge or skills to do so)

I have seen his trades on screen, including a CL trade yesterday that was +$2300ish (can`t remember exact number) which he closed just before oil inventories.

Regardless ... Everyone has their opinions and I happen to like his methods, so I joined his room. Pretty simple thought process there actually.

He is listed here:
Top Ranked Performers - Investing.com

Number 5 of All and number 2 on ETFs .. relevant to day trading futures .. maybe, maybe not ..

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Link to the room

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Which products do you trade?

 
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we can either sit here work out Pros and Cons and Fake or real

At the end of the day your trading account is yours only and VKs account is his.

He is offering free trial and no pressure what so ever to purchase.

Visit the room and be the judge. It has worked for me and i continue to learn from his teaching and guidance.

Here is the link and not sure if it will be offered next week.

http://kongzanatrading.clickwebinar.com/448185325/register

I am not affiliated with VK but for once i have found an honest and genuine person who is willing to help traders with their trading goal

Sharmas


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He is listed here:
Top Ranked Performers - Investing.com

Number 5 of All and number 2 on ETFs .. relevant to day trading futures .. maybe, maybe not ..

That website is awfully fishy. He doesn't have a clickable profile, so it is unclear how much time it took to achieve the results. It looks like he isn't active there anymore. Some of the winning systems had horrendous DDs there. All in all, not enough info...

But hey, I liked his little brother Valdek...

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In that same email he also has links to screen shots of his NT account performance tab

Here it is from today:

https://gallery.mailchimp.com/77d87dd3004b4c3249405ae98/images/ef6c22ba-f850-4ff3-99e3-b38d25ae0403.jpg

in that screen shot it shows at the bottom "connected -ninjatrading continuum". so he uses NT for his actual broker? My NT says "connected -interactivebrokers" -as IB is my broker
Do you know if NT is his broker is and have you seen his last years actual PNL?

why doesn't he show his actual trading DOM so that his entries and exits are seen perfectly clearly> obviously it is part of his marketing to show when he is in profit as your screen shot shows.

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in that screen shot it shows at the bottom "connected -ninjatrading continuum". so he uses NT for his actual broker? My NT says "connected -interactivebrokers" -as IB is my broker
Do you know if NT is his broker is and have you seen his last years actual PNL?

why doesn't he show his actual trading DOM so that his entries and exits are seen perfectly clearly> obviously it is part of his marketing to show when he is in profit as your screen shot shows.

no idea what broker he uses

He shows he trades on his chart trader when in them. Also shows his PNL for each instrument daily on chart trader. Why he doesn't use a DOM idk .. You could always go in the room and ask. But the trades are clearly there on the charts when he makes them.

If you think something fishy is going on, don't join. Pretty simple IMO.

I paid for a service because I think there is value. I'm not affiliated with him in any way.

Your questions would best be directed at him .. Send him an email and see if he replies with the answers. Join the room and ask during the daily Q&A session. Maybe that would clear it all up for you.

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sharmas
i have made a bit of a study of trading rooms over the last 10 years. I don't doubt you are genuine and convinced that he is some sort of genius trader. I have felt the same way, for a while, over more than one room. It's human nature to want to trust people, this is why cults are so successful.

Anyway time will tell. Let's see if you feel the same in a year.

And if he does start showing a live DOM, and actual account details on daily basis, let us know> I will jrejoin and give an update of my experience then.

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I might seem unfair on kz but here is a story when i was on elitetrader back in 2007. A few of the es traders promoted, sincerely, a room where the mod was trading up to 100 contracts a trade. Making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month.
But then some suspicious types asked for evidence .

Oh dear. One of the bigger traders wondered why he hadnt heard of the mods name- since he would have heard of someone doing that size..

After dozens of posts from both camps it turned out it was all on sim. I think The thread has been removed as possibly ET was threatened with legal action. I think The ctfc investigated too but i heard he restarted a room under a different website..

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