Quite a few years ago. I have been (bought and paid) to most of them out there...at least most of what was out there 5 or more years ago.
TTZ is and remains more hype than anything else. You are given a lot of reading material, setup tools, a dvd course, and everything is triple secure against the boogie man. First - there are no secrets in trading. Keeping something very private does not mean it works better than something else. Also, having a private cheering crowd with all kinds of secret hidden names and signal words to make it sound very mysterious does not make anything work better.
So, save your money. Everything taught at TTZ can be found in this blog or anywhere on the internet....for free. Lately I have noticed that TTZ is adopting a shotgun approach...now a scalper,,,now an auto trader,,,now an auto trading system...geez ...whats next?
What most traders need is a mentor, a trading buddy, someone who has gone down the road ahead of you and can help as a guide. All the rooms and all the courses will not do what you have to do for yourself. The way to learn to trade is to trade. Study the many methods and approaches offered here, then pick something that strikes your fancy and start there.
Realistically...give it a few years minimum. Practice all your setups, money management, and get a consistent approach to the market going in sim. Once you have your stuff down, test it in strict sim - take an 'ACID TEST" and see how you do. If you pass...then start small and slow with reasonable daily gains. You are going for consistency first. Consistently wrong can be fixed. Erratic spontaneous impulsive approaches to trading cannot be fixed.
Last edited by Jaguar52; March 24th, 2010 at 04:49 PM.
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Yes, I am a member, although havn't been around the room for some time. There is stuff to be learned there for sure. They use Market Profile in a certain way, and they have a weekly live lesson session where you can ask questions. Greg gives a running commentry on the market so your learning bits of stuff all day long, however as there where guests in the room demoing it, you where never really allowed to ask any questions about their strategy during a trading sessions, if you did, the Greg would get very cranky ... and boy he can really go off !
I was told when I was thinking of signing up that they had an 80% win ratio backtest on their strategies (by Gator), but not backed up with any data and the trades arn't tracked by any of the common tracking systems unfortunately, nor is there a clear daily results report, although he does upload his charts each day.
In any case Greg does seem to know the market and I saw him make alot of money, althought that was right throughout the peak of the GFC when the market was going completely crazy ... it was an exciting time to be there. Things may be more difficult in the current market.
To sum up though, there are some real scams out there, I wouldn't call TTZ one.
btw I have also been getting emails from them lately mentioning some new trading setups. Personally now I am slightly wiser, I wouldn't try anything that hasn't been backtested, and hopefully has some live history .. so perhaps requests some results data from them, either backtests, live or both.
I have been a member of the tyrading zone for 3 years. They are a good group of people with a solid method. They trade real money and the training on their method is good. Questions are never a problem.