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List of FIO traders who have passed the TST combine or funded

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 TickedOff 
Sydney, NSW, Australia
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader with Jigsaw DOM
Trading: CL, 6E, ES, Piano
Posts: 264 since Nov 2014
Thanks Given: 229
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Passed my combine, after many, many months of sim and many other failed combines. Starting FTP on Monday - pass or no this is a big milestone for me.



I started to make a lot of progress when I realized it was my psychology, the mental state I had during trading, that was pretty much the main factor determining my profits. I became aware of this concept from reading Dr. Steenbarger's 'the daily trading coach'. Over time it became very apparent as my big losing days I was very emotional and fixated on pl, and my best days I was focused on market movement and more relaxed. Attempts at strategy improvement did not seem to be yielding any results, I knew I needed to trade less, let profits run, I continued developing insights into markets and how they move etc but self sabotage always got in the way.

I want to be more consistent in my results, I had two large losing days that I think were completely avoidable and happened because I lost my mindfulness. That being said I have gained a lot of control over my trading state compared to when I first started. Fomo has been my biggest issue, but being mindful of any tension and anxiety, really feeling my emotions and acknowledging negative thoughts makes it difficult for my inner monkey to take over. I also know my triggers - slow choppy markets can cause me to be impatient and force trades, trading losses or mistakes like missing trades will push me to become undercontrolled and having large profits on the day can mean I lose focus, sometimes I may become fearful of losing and other times I might then not respect risk. My mental prep helps with my state too. Before market analysis and trading I remind myself my no. job as a trader is to watch the markets (anyone can put on a trade), I don't have to be perfect (has been deeply rooted in my subconscious leading to pl fixation and the need to catch every move), that PL is irrelevant, whether Im up or down doesn't matter what matters is where my next edge is at, and finally, and that I need to stay focused and never become complacent or overconfident with success. Paraphrasing Carol Dweck (author of 'Mindset') when very successful its easy to forget that its the processes you did that brought you your success, not you yourself. So if you stop following the processes you get in trouble.

Got to the root of my fomo the weekend before I passed, bit of a long story, but since then a lot of the pressure during trading and apprehension before it has simply vanished and I am more relaxed and focused now, I'm quite interested to see how I perform during FTP.

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 SpyderTrader 
Chicago, Illinois
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Esignal
Trading: ES, NQ, Crude
Posts: 120 since Apr 2012
Thanks Given: 12
Thanks Received: 223


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Passed my combine, after many, many months of sim and many other failed combines. Starting FTP on Monday - pass or no this is a big milestone for me.

How would you rate these guys customer service?
In terms of staying in touch, evaluating your progress, and so on?

Around 5% move the market. 10% try to follow the 5%. The rest provide liquidity.
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 TickedOff 
Sydney, NSW, Australia
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader with Jigsaw DOM
Trading: CL, 6E, ES, Piano
Posts: 264 since Nov 2014
Thanks Given: 229
Thanks Received: 250



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How would you rate these guys customer service?
In terms of staying in touch, evaluating your progress, and so on?

I didnt get any specific advice on my trading approach, any questions I have asked have received prompt responses.

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 TickedOff 
Sydney, NSW, Australia
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader with Jigsaw DOM
Trading: CL, 6E, ES, Piano
Posts: 264 since Nov 2014
Thanks Given: 229
Thanks Received: 250

I did not pass the ftp - broke my max loss limit. I had my large losing days again, especially during the second week (i.e. this week) where there was a lot of chop and I forced trades. As a result I have extensively written out and defined every trade setup - if its a countertrend or trend trade and also my confidence in the setup. I wrote down all the discretionary hints that tip me off as to market strength and weakness. Prior to this I have had some trades defined but a lot of it is kind of me just "reading" the market not quite consciously sure of what Im doing, it leaves a lot of subjectivity. The idea was to put down everything I have learned and floating around in my subconscious and commit it to memory and become conscious of it. My thinking is, if I can define all my valid reasons for getting into a trade and commit them to memory, it will be a lot easier for me to notice myself putting out impulsive trades and also help me stay out of the market when there isnt opportunity. A lot of times I will sort of put on a trade on the smallest signal or talk myself into doing something. I see nuances in everything, which has been great because it has lead me to picking up a lot of discretionary reads in the market but it also can work against me if I overthink. If I know clearly what is opportunity and what isnt, then I can sit in the sidelines and be happy. I will also try journaling again. I stopped it for a while because writing all my entries, exits, stops, and feelings during teh trade took up a lot of time and I trade actively. I have abbreviated all my trade setups so for trade entry reasons that should at least save time. I am feeling optimistic and looking forward to my next combine. Its good that I am learning all this trading sim and not live.

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 TickedOff 
Sydney, NSW, Australia
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader with Jigsaw DOM
Trading: CL, 6E, ES, Piano
Posts: 264 since Nov 2014
Thanks Given: 229
Thanks Received: 250

Ok so my trade report says I have adhered to all rules, I emailed support to see what this means because Im pretty sure I did exceed the trailing drawdown by a small amount, they said that if the status changes I will be alerted very quickly, so I think I am still in this for now. I don't wanna take up too much room in this thread so my next post will be if I pass FTP.

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 saints51 
Louisiana
 
Experience: None
Platform: Sierra Charts
Broker: DDT/TT
Trading: ES,6E,DX,6A,CL
Posts: 22 since Mar 2012
Thanks Given: 81
Thanks Received: 16

Does your company have a ticker symbol so I can invest into it. This is the best ponzi scam I have ever seen. Let people pay the company to weed themselves out while you control the tiers for advancement, stringing along the next poor sap who thinks he will be a millionaire......Brilliant!!!!!!!!!

I am sure you will come on this thread and say we have skin in the game blah blah blah. Bull poo. Anybody who supports this type of company is part of the scheme. There is plenty of great advice from a whole bunch of members to learn how to trade. So many people want to help and for free. Ironic isn't it but people feel if they pay for something they expect results...lol. Not in this biz.

Whats even more stunning, you can use Ninjatrader and other platforms for free while in demo. Yep, for free. You can even fund an account and stay in demo forever if you like with full function of the platform.Shocking right!!!!!!

Quit making others rich.

Key Points to remember-

1. this company uses your money to evaluate yourself..LMAO!!!!!
2. Controls your advancement for a funded account even though you paid them
3. Changes the rules from Combine to funded account - think about this one very hard. Why not make the rules the same. I know I would teach you the right way the first time if you traded for me. The ground rules would have never changed. So ask yourself why do they change them? Here is a hint - to control advancement due to under capitalization meaning they need more fools to pay them. They have no skin in the game. They are fooling you and laughing all the way to the bank. When they do find a trader who is too poor to be trading their own account but is good, that is who they fund and will rape and pillage that poor guy. That guy pays the commissions and date feed fees. Not them. So what skin do they have in the game.

I am sorry if I rub some of you wrong but enough is enough with these types of businesses. We need to stand against this garbage. This is someone trying to steal money from all of you. There is plenty of great advice free of charge or just a small donation one time on this forum. There are others that will help you for free. Good people do exist.

Here is a challenge to Top Step. They refuse it then you know the answer. Here is the Challenge:

Allow traders to use your combine free of charge where no credit card is needed for signup. You pay all data feed fees and commissions can be split when funded. The trader should not have to pay a dime to showcase their talent. If you can not offer this then I say to the community- Here is your sign.

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 spideysteve 
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: NT, MT4, Jigsaw
Broker: Continuum
Trading: ZN, ES
Posts: 154 since Mar 2015
Thanks Given: 363
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When they do find a trader who is too poor to be trading their own account but is good, that is who they fund and will rape and pillage that poor guy. That guy pays the commissions and date feed fees. Not them. So what skin do they have in the game.

I'm in no way disputing what you said since you've made some good points.

However, what about this guy who doesn't have the funds to open an account? For example, a person comes to futures.io (formerly BMT) (or other forum) and says "hey everyone here's my trade results for the last 6 months on demo but at the moment I just don't have any cash because of {divorce/bankruptcy/just plain don't have $/insert other reason here} so will someone stake me" ... who is going to put up $5k or more to stake this guy? Anyone on here? And if they do stake the guy, who is paying the expenses? The person putting up the stake or the person making the trades? And, if the person is successful like he proved on demo and manages to be profitable with someone else's $, isn't the person who put up the stake entitled to a chunk of the profit for taking the risk on the person?

Maybe @Big Mike could start a forum for staking/funding new traders?

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 saints51 
Louisiana
 
Experience: None
Platform: Sierra Charts
Broker: DDT/TT
Trading: ES,6E,DX,6A,CL
Posts: 22 since Mar 2012
Thanks Given: 81
Thanks Received: 16


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I'm in no way disputing what you said since you've made some good points.

However, what about this guy who doesn't have the funds to open an account? For example, a person comes to futures.io (formerly BMT) (or other forum) and says "hey everyone here's my trade results for the last 6 months on demo but at the moment I just don't have any cash because of {divorce/bankruptcy/just plain don't have $/insert other reason here} so will someone stake me" ... who is going to put up $5k or more to stake this guy? Anyone on here? And if they do stake the guy, who is paying the expenses? The person putting up the stake or the person making the trades? And, if the person is successful like he proved on demo and manages to be profitable with someone else's $, isn't the person who put up the stake entitled to a chunk of the profit for taking the risk on the person?

Maybe @Big Mike could start a forum for staking/funding new traders?

Well lets think about Topstep's math. Say 100 people sign up at $100 dollars. They have certain tiers where they charge a minimum of 2 months and subscription is monthly until funded. They also try to say it is refundable if funded or say you do not have to pay anymore while in the COMBINE. See they just used your own money by making you think it is rolling over to keep you without it being funded. So 100 people at $100 one time fee for the sake of this example. Thats what 10k total. Out of those 100 people they only fund 1 person and say he can only have a 10k account and that trader pays commissions and data feed fees. They have no skin in game. They will not lose a dime. Then when funded you have a 10k account and you must make 1k a month. That is a 10% return. Goldman Sachs would hire you.

So my answer is the guy either has to try and get a job with a firm, get a job to save money for an account or borrow the money with terms. Yes anyone who puts up money should make a return as I am a capitalist also. I despise crony capitalism which is exactly what laws in the US has encouraged with this type of business model. If you trade for my hedgefund, I do not charge an employee data feed fees or pay to learn. That is like me interviewing you and asking you to give me $100 bucks for my time even though it is my business with a job opening.

Here is the link for the combine for a 10k account with profit target. Sure looks like 10% return to me. you decide
https://www.topstep.com//

Everything you need is on this site for likely free if not the small one time donation. I can think of a dozen traders on this site alone who could bankrupt every single one of those experts/mentors. And I don't post much on this site but can spot them. I wonder if you are a junk trader if their mentorship is free of charge since you pay monthly for combines or is that another fee?

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 lemons 
Tallinn, Estonia
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: SC
Trading: NAS100
Posts: 959 since Nov 2010

Scam no.
TST goal is fund traders who meet demands. Not to collect money for Combines.

I don't know was this e-mail for only for funded traders only or not
but I hided the traders "names".


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 saints51 
Louisiana
 
Experience: None
Platform: Sierra Charts
Broker: DDT/TT
Trading: ES,6E,DX,6A,CL
Posts: 22 since Mar 2012
Thanks Given: 81
Thanks Received: 16



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Scam no.
TST goal is fund traders who meet demands. Not to collect money for Combines.

I don't know was this e-mail for only for funded traders only or not
but I hided the traders "names".


Saints51 had 100 out of 100 trades for wins in June 2015

Do you believe what I just wrote?
Do I offer proof but my forum name?
Did that email all of a sudden say it is not a scam?

Scam YES. All day everyday. Even Bernie Madoff sent checks to everyone thinking they are making money. You pay Bernie and another pays Bernie, Bernie sends you some of his money and Bernie sends some of the other guys money to you while keeping majority for Bernie. 10% return you are extremely excited i bet.

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