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 Zentrader2010 
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Honestly guys - listen to yourselves ?
I mean just because he won't, for clearly personal reasons that probably doesn't have jack to do with your speculation he is not transparent...I mean isn't his very transparent three Volume bible on technical analysis enough? He's very transparent video series enough proof he either A. Trades for a living B knows what he's talking about at the very least?
I think you are just trying to bolster your own particular bias regarding his particular trading methodology. Is it vulpine analysts vs price action camps ? I mean to suggest a lot of traders are not benefiting greatly from his teachings and using it to become successful professionals to some degree or another is ludicrous thinking.
How about this for Al Brooks reasons?
1. He's a modest guy and doesn't want to brag about just how much money he is making from trading alone. Probably way more then you lot I vouch as highly probable bet.
2. There is some legal reasons for it which is beyond your comprehension but ties him up as an advisor and he does not have the bit of paper that allows him to do so
3. On the off chance he is merely an academic which is fairly low bet - he was an Ophthalmologist and a pretty smart guy and I'm sure there are plenty of academic writings on trading which are very on the mark and useful
4. I bet most of you guys haven't even bothered to read his works? Am I right ? How can you sit in judgement ?

5. He is successful at what he does. He is naturally a target of lesser human beings who are just plain jealous that the only place they can find a place to publish their writings on is at a forum.

I will give you an analogy :

I don't particularly like Rose Byrne as an actress. She is very hot though I think we can agree ?
So my partner took me to a play in Sydney town called 'Speed the Plow'
And the first act, she kind of proved my 'bias ' . Fairly pedestrian acting ...
But just as I was feeling smug in my 'verification ' because it was apparently in front of my eyes ( she was still eye candy ) BAM.
Second act she really comes alive and totally shocked and awed me! Suddenly I saw the great actress not a cute piece of. It is clear to me now that I was wrong in a big way. Too many internal biases. I think we are all guilty of that but just can't admit it. It is part of psychology we all have to work on. There is no absolute 'I am right and he is wrong ' . If you think that you better wipe that smile off your face and spend longer working in yourself rather than having a go at someone that has made it already ....


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emini2000
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Honestly guys - listen to yourselves ?
I mean just because he won't, for clearly personal reasons that probably doesn't have jack to do with your speculation he is not transparent...I mean isn't his very transparent three Volume bible on technical analysis enough? He's very transparent video series enough proof he either A. Trades for a living B knows what he's talking about at the very least?
I think you are just trying to bolster your own particular bias regarding his particular trading methodology. Is it vulpine analysts vs price action camps ? I mean to suggest a lot of traders are not benefiting greatly from his teachings and using it to become successful professionals to some degree or another is ludicrous thinking.
How about this for Al Brooks reasons?
1. He's a modest guy and doesn't want to brag about just how much money he is making from trading alone. Probably way more then you lot I vouch as highly probable bet.
2. There is some legal reasons for it which is beyond your comprehension but ties him up as an advisor and he does not have the bit of paper that allows him to do so
3. On the off chance he is merely an academic which is fairly low bet - he was an Ophthalmologist and a pretty smart guy and I'm sure there are plenty of academic writings on trading which are very on the mark and useful
4. I bet most of you guys haven't even bothered to read his works? Am I right ? How can you sit in judgement ?

5. He is successful at what he does. He is naturally a target of lesser human beings who are just plain jealous that the only place they can find a place to publish their writings on is at a forum.

I will give you an analogy :

I don't particularly like Rose Byrne as an actress. She is very hot though I think we can agree ?
So my partner took me to a play in Sydney town called 'Speed the Plow'
And the first act, she kind of proved my 'bias ' . Fairly pedestrian acting ...
But just as I was feeling smug in my 'verification ' because it was apparently in front of my eyes ( she was still eye candy ) BAM.
Second act she really comes alive and totally shocked and awed me! Suddenly I saw the great actress not a cute piece of. It is clear to me now that I was wrong in a big way. Too many internal biases. I think we are all guilty of that but just can't admit it. It is part of psychology we all have to work on. There is no absolute 'I am right and he is wrong ' . If you think that you better wipe that smile off your face and spend longer working in yourself rather than having a go at someone that has made it already ....


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That post is high comedy.

Listen, I'm an old-timer (and just old). I've been scammed by the best. In my many years journey, I still really haven't found a room (maybe one or two) that's up front and honest about their trading and will show you their 'stuff'.

Heck, I was in a room yesterday, and these guys say they have access to the floor, whatever edge that's supposed to give them, and watched them trade. Had the charts up and their DOM up. Took a Ym trade i think, went way against them, and they ended up adding 3 more contracts while at a loss and they finally worked their way into a profit.

Then I notice something. Guess what? All their charts and DOMs are in SIM mode! No wonder they have no fear in adding on to losers, etc. As anybody here knows, trading in SIM and live are two totally different psychological things. And success in SIM doesn't translate into success live because of it.

I said all that to say this: after all my years of experience, if a person won't show their real accounts, real charts, real DOM, then they are bogus, no matter how good of a teacher they are. I understand a lot of you like Al personally, but that doesn't mean he isn't bogus. And all the evidence points to that he is. Just saying you trade live and make money isn't enough. There has to be proof.

They're all scammers unless they prove they're not after all I've seen over the years. Some of you just haven't been burned enough apparently. The blind leading the blind.

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 arafg 
Los Angeles, CA
 
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1. He's a modest guy and doesn't want to brag about just how much money he is making from trading alone. Probably way more then you lot I vouch as highly probable bet.
]

Obviously that is it. After all when Emmett called him asked for some proof and he refused, what else could it be? Well maybe the dog eat his brokerage statements. But yes it has to be one of these 2 reasons.

Here is what I know seldom does the devil wear horns and carry a pitch forks. Been to many trading rooms that can put on an amazing show and they all sound so caring and sincere. Yet still waiting for one to trade a live account with DOM up and showing a track record.

I must add I was not sure if your post was serious or sarcasm. If sarcasm then I must admit you are brilliant and witty writer. I wish I was that good of a writer.

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 Zentrader2010 
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I wonder if a guy wrote about how to do eye surgery and had other Ophthalmologists read it whether they could decide he is bogus and is just an academic ?


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I wonder if a guy wrote about how to do eye surgery and had other Ophthalmologists read it whether they could decide he is bogus and is just an academic ?


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I sure wouldn't let a person operate on me that just wrote about eye surgery and had not done any, or done it and wasn't successful at it. Or learn from him.

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 arafg 
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I wonder if a guy wrote about how to do eye surgery and had other Ophthalmologists read it whether they could decide he is bogus and is just an academic ?


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At least every Doctor's office I have been to they have a plaque showing proof they at least graduate from medical school. Practicing Medicine without a license is a crime.

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Are we not suppose to mention Emmett's site? Crooked Hilary posted this on Emmett's site - you can go there and see I am including his exact post:

"
“His attitude is not in alignment with what this forum stands for”

In other words he is not following in the footsteps of the cult brotherhood- LOL.

How dare he jump out of the kool-aid line.

Even Mr Kumbya bobwest could not get him to settle in for the nightly pudding and had to pull the grand master Big Mike away from his mail order bride from stroking their mutts on the beach. LOL."

I understand that you are just quoting this.

Whoever wrote it has confirmed an opinion I was starting to form about this whole mess.

I don't think I will share my opinion. It has nothing to do with whether Al Brooks is honest or not. It has a lot to do with the stuff some people are willing to sling at others. WTF?

Bob.

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Ophthalmologists

Just to lighten the mood, a joke as an analogy:

Q: What do you call a doctor who goes through med school with a bunch of Ds?

A: A doctor.

The point is that any vendor's previous profession is pretty much irrelevant to the fact if he/she is profitable or not. I wanted to respond to your non sequiturs but instead here is another joke:

What do you call 2 orthopedic doctors reading an EKG? A double blind study!

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Look at the logic of the 'Al is a non -trader camp ? '
If A. Al does not show his brokerage statement he is ;
1. A non trader or
2. A trader
You choose 1
But just because condition A is not satisfied does not mean 1.
The correct answer is neither with certainty.
So you hold a bias that defies cold hard logic

You have enough ' experience' that you assume the condition A mostly leads to 1.
But a general condition does not prove a specific next event.

You assume 1 is correct only without real conviction.

It may work in your trading that You make money when condition A is satisfied 65% of the time
1. It rallies when I buy 65% of time
2. It does not rally when I buy (35%)

You know you don't have any certainty when you take the trade but you do because you have a stop loss when you're wrong that limits your losses...

Would you place a bet that you are right about Al ? What would be the odds of you winning ? How certain are you in reality ?

Al teaches this in fact.
He states that when you buy, someone just as smart as you is selling. Your edge is small or disappears quickly and filled with uncertainty ... he is correct and you cannot argue otherwise. So logic is a form of proof.





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Zentrader2010 View Post
Honestly guys - listen to yourselves ?
I mean just because he won't, for clearly personal reasons that probably doesn't have jack to do with your speculation he is not transparent...I mean isn't his very transparent three Volume bible on technical analysis enough? He's very transparent video series enough proof he either A. Trades for a living B knows what he's talking about at the very least?
I think you are just trying to bolster your own particular bias regarding his particular trading methodology. Is it vulpine analysts vs price action camps ? I mean to suggest a lot of traders are not benefiting greatly from his teachings and using it to become successful professionals to some degree or another is ludicrous thinking.
How about this for Al Brooks reasons?
1. He's a modest guy and doesn't want to brag about just how much money he is making from trading alone. Probably way more then you lot I vouch as highly probable bet.
2. There is some legal reasons for it which is beyond your comprehension but ties him up as an advisor and he does not have the bit of paper that allows him to do so
3. On the off chance he is merely an academic which is fairly low bet - he was an Ophthalmologist and a pretty smart guy and I'm sure there are plenty of academic writings on trading which are very on the mark and useful
4. I bet most of you guys haven't even bothered to read his works? Am I right ? How can you sit in judgement ?

5. He is successful at what he does. He is naturally a target of lesser human beings who are just plain jealous that the only place they can find a place to publish their writings on is at a forum.

I will give you an analogy :

I don't particularly like Rose Byrne as an actress. She is very hot though I think we can agree ?
So my partner took me to a play in Sydney town called 'Speed the Plow'
And the first act, she kind of proved my 'bias ' . Fairly pedestrian acting ...
But just as I was feeling smug in my 'verification ' because it was apparently in front of my eyes ( she was still eye candy ) BAM.
Second act she really comes alive and totally shocked and awed me! Suddenly I saw the great actress not a cute piece of. It is clear to me now that I was wrong in a big way. Too many internal biases. I think we are all guilty of that but just can't admit it. It is part of psychology we all have to work on. There is no absolute 'I am right and he is wrong ' . If you think that you better wipe that smile off your face and spend longer working in yourself rather than having a go at someone that has made it already ....


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Good post Zen (the 2nd bit mainly). I have no idea who this guy Al is btw. Try to avoid vendors.....saves awful lot of hassle.


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