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I am pleased to announce that we have added Jigsaw Trading to our Elite Partner program.

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This means that Elite Members can receive a 10% discount off the purchase of a Jigsaw Lifetime License.

Note: Big Mike Trading does NOT receive compensation for these referrals, we simply worked out these special deals to help our Elite Members who have chosen to support the site. Even though we believe these are great products and services, you should always do your own research before doing business with a company.

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is that the reason he's not labeled as a "vendor" anymore? lol

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is that the reason he's not labeled as a "vendor" anymore? lol

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No, it has nothing to do with it.

There is an error in the reputation script at the moment that will delete the Vendor text when someone is promoted to Market Wizard. I have my developer working on it already.

I also want to remind you, and everyone else of the following:

Note: Big Mike Trading does NOT receive compensation for these referrals, we simply worked out these special deals to help our Elite Members who have chosen to support the site. Even though we believe these are great products and services, you should always do your own research before doing business with a company.

Just in case you missed reading that -- because it almost sounds like you are inferring something nefarious on my part.

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
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2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
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No, it has nothing to do with it.

There is an error in the reputation script at the moment that will delete the Vendor text when someone is promoted to Market Wizard. I have my developer working on it already.

I also want to remind you, and everyone else of the following:

Note: Big Mike Trading does NOT receive compensation for these referrals, we simply worked out these special deals to help our Elite Members who have chosen to support the site. Even though we believe these are great products and services, you should always do your own research before doing business with a company.

Just in case you missed reading that -- because it almost sounds like you are inferring something nefarious on my part.

Mike

really!!

I was pretty sure it had something to do with the market wizard status. but I wasn't sure if you saw it, because I didn't see the problem mentioned anywhere (of course I might have missed it).

so, I'm really sorry for trying to be helpful.


ps and yes you're right, I normally don't read that stuff in red. because I couldn't care less either way. and it's none of my business anyway.

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Hey all, I've been SIM trading for a few months now and my main focus has been order flow scalping combined with aspects of market profile theory, day types, POC's etc etc. I'm a big advcoator of the Jigsaw Tools, in my opinion they're almost essential for scalping the thicker markets. I'm also a believer in the methodology of John Grady of NO BS Trading. Seeing as this is an appropriate thread I'd like to post a video of a trade I took today using the Jigsaw Platform and explain how, to me, it can be used properly to execute a trade based on whatever premise it may be (fading, playing the breakout, trading value etc). My expertise lies not with making videos, so the quality is pretty s****y. Play the video in the highest quality and you should be able to see the numbers on the tape on the right hand side of the screen.

This trade was taken just minutes after the market had opened, the thesis of the trade was trying to catch the opening drive, and it was taken based on several factors which I will try to explain as well as my thought process during the trade and my entries.



Basically the way that I see it the market at the opening bell can do one of two things: Show strong conviction to one side or the other, or range until a directional bias is formed and the market takes off one direction. The market opened at 1754 even and sold down to 1752.50, now at this point I'm looking to do two things, short the opening drive to the downside or play it the opposite way and look for the drive to the upside. On the reconstructed tape on the right I have a size filter set to only show order sizes 50 or larger, with a block filter set at 100. As the market approaches 1752.50 you will see that there is decent size stepping up to buy into the selling pressure, and what follows large size at the market will be large size on the limit, if that makes sense. The big boys use algos not only to piece in a large order in smaller quantities, they also use them as a defense mechanism as the market goes against them in the form of large limits, or limits that will constantly refresh, even instantly build as price ticks up or down. This is most apparent in the last 15 minutes that the market is open when these algos are firing at all cylinders. It is not uncommon during this time to see 10 thousand plus contracts on the ES trade at one price and not go bid or offer as they try to push price in one direction or another at the close. However without the Jigsaw depth and sales DOM you will have an extremely hard time detecting these things as they occur, the bid refreshing, large hidden orders on the limit that are used in order to hold price where it is etc. In the video at 1:46 to 1:51 1752.25 will go offer from 1752.50 and then tick back up, as soon as it does there are instantly 500+ contracts built on the bid. So, size buying on the way down and instant refreshing on the bid as it ticks up means that: someone is trying stop the market where it is, and you better believe they will bid it up. Using both the Jigsaw DOM and recon sales you can recognize that this is happening, and can prevent you from getting ran over going short. You can see there is some decent size selling on the way down but at this point I know it's going to take a huge push, thousands of contracts to push this through any lower, this rules out any conviction down and means 1 of 2 things, the market is going to at least range and there is a strong possibility that there is going to be a drive to the upside, past the opening price at 1754. At around 2:00 minutes I see a quick pop to the upside and so I enter on a limit at 1752.75 and the trade quickly goes in my favor. At this point I'm hoping for a quick pop past the open to 1756 and if it doesn't then I'm out. This is where the Jigsaw tools again provide vital information. I work the order at 1754, I could have gotten another tick or so but just as the big players stuck the market at 1752.50, the big players on the opposite side start to do the same thing around 1754.25, which is ultimately what causes the market to range at the open: there is no consensus on where fair, accepted value should be. If you have large size in agreement at the opening bell, that's when the market can move 5 or 6 points rapidly in 1 direction. It wasn't the trade I was hoping for but a 5 tick scalp in under 2 minutes is nothing to turn your nose up at. Once you see size step up to sell the market, the offers start refreshing and rapidly build on a tick down there is absolutely no point in staying in the trade from a scalping standpoint, which you will see if you look closely at the offer side of the market as I get out of the trade. This is what sets Jigsaw apart from other DOMS and other order flow software, by effectively learning to use it, it allows you be able to recognize these things as they happen. Price eventually did reach 1756, it wasn't until about 10 minutes later and not before price actually fell through my entry, which unfortunately isn't on my video, but even then I could have simply re entered the trade. If you are considering order flow as a method of trading, then there is absolutely nothing that can compare to the Jigsaw tools, IMO.


I'm considering making more videos (hopefully better quality) in a journal centered around my current methodology; hopefully those who read this post and watch the video find it entertaining and can take something from it. You might have to watch it a couple time to really pick up on what I'm saying, being able to ascertain the information that the Jigsaw platform is providing you with takes a while to pick up on.


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I've been wanting to trade using order flow analysis for a long time. I'm glad I found this group. I believe Jigsaw has a lot to offer traders. Here is a video of one of my favorite CL trades using Jigsaw's order analysis tools. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFe8te5I47Y

I'm sorry about the video quality.

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This is just a note to let everyone know that Jigsaw Trading is now a futures.io (formerly BMT) site sponsor. A product demo promotional webinar will be scheduled for the near future.

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
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2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
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This is just a note to let everyone know that Jigsaw Trading is now a futures.io (formerly BMT) site sponsor. A product demo promotional webinar will be scheduled for the near future.

Mike

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No, it has nothing to do with it.

There is an error in the reputation script at the moment that will delete the Vendor text when someone is promoted to Market Wizard. I have my developer working on it already.

I also want to remind you, and everyone else of the following:

Note: Big Mike Trading does NOT receive compensation for these referrals, we simply worked out these special deals to help our Elite Members who have chosen to support the site. Even though we believe these are great products and services, you should always do your own research before doing business with a company.

Just in case you missed reading that -- because it almost sounds like you are inferring something nefarious on my part.

Mike



I have noticed a distinct pattern in the type of companies you allow to be site sponsors. They are consistently
great people with great products.

Don't think you're sneaking anything past me

grazie


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I have noticed a distinct pattern in the type of companies you allow to be site sponsors. They are consistently
great people with great products.

Don't think you're sneaking anything past me

grazie

The promotion you quoted existed long before they became a sponsor. futures.io (formerly BMT) still receives no compensation for any referral.

You'll note there are multiple offers for Elite Members from companies that are not site sponsors. They are independent of each other.

In addition, I routinely and consistently deny offers from companies that hand out referrals or affiliate compensation agreements.

I also routinely deny site sponsorship based on having high standards. If I had no such standards I could have far, far more money in my pocket. But I also couldn't sleep at night.

There are countless companies that take advantage of inexperienced traders. I do my part to fight them.

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Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
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Jigsaw trade room with Stephen Kelly



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Anyone has experience with Jigsaw Live trading room durin Eurex session with the trader named Stephen Kelly?
I heard he trades his live account and show his DOM in the room?
Any feedbacks or reviews?
Live Trade Room with Stephen Kelly - Jigsaw Trading

Why not take a free trial to see for yourself? Peterīs a stand-up guy and as transparent as they come in my experience - Iīm going to check it out myself, didnīt know he had a live room.




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I think the trial period is gone.I didnt have much time to join during the trial period coz of the fact that the room only runs 3 hours during european session. During short period of time I was in there during the trial, Stephen didnt trade live and only talked about his method.So,I am not sure he is trading live now.
There is no trial now I guess

Yes. I canīt find a free trial either. That surprises me. Iīd too welcome reviews on this trade room, Iīm not putting down any hard cash without a trial (or at the least a money back guarantee), been down that road too many times now.

Thereīs a few links for chat room/live room/ but I canīt see any current trial. Maybe Peter can confirm?

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