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Legal rights?

I am not from the US, so I am asking for advice. Some time ago I sat in the Puretick free webinar, for about 20 minutes, and decided he Alex had no idea beyond what his indicators showed him. A few days later Tiffany had contacted me and i said I wasnt interested. During the brief pause i reaserched Alex and clncluded from what I read there was too much negative press. When Tiffany contacted me i told her i was not interested and that i didnt feel the service was legit. Less than 24 hours later i received abusive emails from Alex, and I admittedly engaged him, a liitle shocked at what i was reading. Eventually i just stopped writing to him to justify my decision not to take on his service. About three or so weeks pass by and on friday, i grt another offensive email from him, and they dont stop. Hes a madman, he must be.

I would like to post the email transactions so people can see the type of person he is. I dont know if that would set me up to be sued; everybody sues someone here it seems; no offense. In any case I am going to be doing what ever i can to report Alex.

Thanks.

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I am not from the US, so I am asking for advice. Some time ago I sat in the Puretick free webinar, for about 20 minutes, and decided he Alex had no idea beyond what his indicators showed him. A few days later Tiffany had contacted me and i said I wasnt interested. During the brief pause i reaserched Alex and clncluded from what I read there was too much negative press. When Tiffany contacted me i told her i was not interested and that i didnt feel the service was legit. Less than 24 hours later i received abusive emails from Alex, and I admittedly engaged him, a liitle shocked at what i was reading. Eventually i just stopped writing to him to justify my decision not to take on his service. About three or so weeks pass by and on friday, i grt another offensive email from him, and they dont stop. Hes a madman, he must be.

I would like to post the email transactions so people can see the type of person he is. I dont know if that would set me up to be sued; everybody sues someone here it seems; no offense. In any case I am going to be doing what ever i can to report Alex.

Thanks.

Honestly if you are a citizen and resident of another country. Its much harder for someone to take legal action against you. For example a Chinese Citizen vs a US citizen. They must apply international legal regulations and any documents can not be sent directly to the other party or their lawyer. They must be sent through the High court of china and then passed down to the individual. This is my personal knowledge not legal advice. However I doubt that due the increased cost, complexity and length of proceedings. Attempting to sue you for slander (which is what I am assuming you will be threatened with). The costs will heavily out weight and sort of settlement. Also you are not slandering him by posting direct quotes and allowing others to gleen what they gleen from it. If you make statements about him that are false, then yes. But again you are subject to the laws and regulations of your home country, not his. AGAIN THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE, CONSULT LEGAL COUNSEL IF YOU HAVE ANY SERIOUS QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

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Thanks Trey...

I got a new response this morning and this is what the threats are looking like:

"Every one of my clients was a person willing to learn, willing to grow. The reason you lose (and yes I know you lose) your writing gives you away.

Actually I will make money from the few morons who were stupid enough to post defamatory materials. Some, like you are indigant. You can post any crap you want because you know even if I legally prevailed, you probably have no assets
to go after.

I have a very thorough investigator who finds out those things. The last clown who posted ramblings had exactly $17,000 liquid net worth. He had a $350,000 home with a $290,000 mortgage." Alex Wasilewski.

His mails are full of these threats with legal action on anyone who posts against him.

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Which products do you trade?

 
Hi Ptpa Trader,

Well done, you have saved yourself some money. I may have helped in that.
I spent money on his service, and to find out how much quackery that service is.
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Pass it on. It seems real, but without showing his live account = smells fishy !
Also, you can hear him click on a trade before he announces it- so his success is not
really your's . NOW that is ILLEGAL . But the securities commision has to check that one out !

Thanks for posting, to warn others. Beware of anything that says: PURETICK.co
-G

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Seriously, if anybody is searching for reviews of Puretick on Google and they happen upon this thread, read it over and over and realise that you just dodged a bullet.

please, Please, PLEASE do not give them any of your money. Puretick will not teach you how to trade. Puretick will not teach you money management. Puretick will not make you money.

Puretick will help you blow your account so do not get taken in by Alex Wasilewski and Puretick.

As newbie traders, we all get it...you want to make money. You want to win all the time and you read the 89.9% success rate with Puretick and bam, you think it is the holy grail. It isn't. Not by a long shot.

Trading is the hardest thing I have ever done. It is a huge steep learning curve that requires patience, psychology, dedication and learning. You will make losing trades. Lots of them. When you are 'right' and the market proves you wrong, it will feel like everything you thought was 'right' has crumbled away in seconds.

You will then tinker with your set up. You will tinker for hours with your indicators and go back over weeks of charts, trying to tweak your favourite indicator to identify winning setups. Then when it doesn't work, you will search the internet paying through the nose for another indicator that you think will work for you. It won't. So you take a free trial in another trading room. Rinse, cycle, repeat.

I have been there. I have lost thousands. I have lost tens of thousands.

I am only now at a stage where I feel semi comfortable facing the markets. I still consider myself a beginner and I have been trading since 2010!

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it requires you, not a trading room to make that happen. I am sure there are trading rooms out there that are great, I have just never found one. Trading for me is solitary. No news, no music, no phone calls...just me, my charts and Big Mike's.

Sorry for the diatribe here, but I don't want people to experience the pain I went through. There will be pain, no doubt about it, but at least come and share your pain on Big Mike's where we ALL know what your are going through.

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Just want to give an update - as expected the DA for Florida did little, but I was then put in contact with the Miami FBI and all of the material I have on Alex W was passed on. I forwarded what I had done to their more sensible side of their business, stating that I wished Alex to cease-and-desist contacting me. I havent heard anything since then, and they were made aware I had sent everything over to the authorities...hopefully thats the last I will hear from him.

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Just want to give an update - as expected the DA for Florida did little, but I was then put in contact with the Miami FBI and all of the material I have on Alex W was passed on. I forwarded what I had done to their more sensible side of their business, stating that I wished Alex to cease-and-desist contacting me. I havent heard anything since then, and they were made aware I had sent everything over to the authorities...hopefully thats the last I will hear from him.

If going this route you should also consider reporting to the CFTC.

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Great News From Alex!

http://marketdancer.com/trade-like-a-pro/

Puretick has transformed into MarketDancer®, and now.. (drum roll) they offer an (expensive) Pro Trader Training Program, with free ($2,000 value!) Trader Talent Scouting!

The fees seem a little high. You can get the Talent Scouting for free in the Combine®!

Back to my studies now.. learning about The Illuminati and Reptilians today! They hold the secrets to trading!

"If we don't loosen up some money, this sucker is going down." -GW Bush, 2008
“Lack of proof that something is true does not prove that it is not true - when you want to believe.” -Humpty Dumpty, 2014
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http://marketdancer.com/trade-like-a-pro/

Puretick is now MarketDancer®, and now.. (drum roll) they offer an (expensive) Pro Trader Training Program, with free ($2,000 value!) Trader Talent Scouting!

The fees seem a little high. You can get the Talent Scouting for free in the Combine®!

Back to my studies now.. learning about The Illuminati and Reptilians today! They hold the secrets to trading!

If someone else can confirm, I will updated thread title info with their new name

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