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30Yr. Bond Futures trading/scalping size ZB

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Hi @tigertrader, do you think bonds being dead has anything to do with the relentless QE?



Before the COVID crisis hit the Fed's plan was to pay down $56 BB in debt next quarter. Instead they will borrow close to $3TT, so yes that's a lot of supply. And, the demand for bonds has been more in corporates than governments, so treasuries have been quite stagnant. Also, the magnitude of long-end issuance was greater then anticipated, and is the reason why you are seeing a bear steepening in the 5/30.

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I "met" a fellow years ago that always traded a 16 lot on the ZB and used a 3 tick profit target.

He never complained about slippage, his biggest complaint was about the fees he paid his broker, typically > $6,500 a month
(He didn't own a "seat", he just traded for his own account).

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I think it takes a special kind of mental fortitude to get comfortable looking at DOM that's flashing a $500 change on every tick.

this is why I never have $ P&L on my screen. Only Ticks.


Nice job on the spread trade @tigertrader. I had a profitable day as well.
I want to start looking at spread trading, I may do so over the next few months. It's a different type of trade that I may add to my overall strategy.

My testing and live results on 30Yr directional trades have been doing very well, so I dont see a reason to eliminate it. ... and yup, there's always a better way. agree with you there !

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Thanks for the info



this is why I never have $ P&L on my screen. Only Ticks.


Nice job on the spread trade @tigertrader. I had a profitable day as well.
I want to start looking at spread trading, I may do so over the next few months. It's a different type of trade that I may add to my overall strategy.

My testing and live results on 30Yr directional trades have been doing very well, so I dont see a reason to eliminate it. ... and yup, there's always a better way. agree with you there !

Just start trading treasury(ZB) in the jigsaw, do you mind give some advice? Are you looking at the tape or only focus on DOM? thanks

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I was always told to keep your max size at about a tenth of the average size on the DOM so that you can get in and out fairly quickly. So If the average is 200 then the max would be a 20 lot.

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