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 smtlaissezfaire 
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I'm a beginning trader with a small account; for this reason, I've been mostly trading ZF until I have a consistently profitable strategy.

I mostly trade in the afternoons (I'm on the west coast) - and volatility can be pretty low during those times.

I've been trading with market profile but have had very few opportunities the last few days. Today (for the several hours I watched ZF) it only traded between a 4 tick range.

I'm wondering what you guys do when volatility goes down substantially? Do you trade other markets? Spreads? If so, curious what markets and how you trade them?

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I would recommend trying to trade something like the micro e Minis. That’ll expose you to real volatility with small capital exposure. There is also a micro gold but gold is very correlated to bonds


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 smtlaissezfaire 
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MYM?

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 numberjuani 
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MYM?



Yeah or MES, MES is the most liquid but since theres only 30 stocks in the DJIA (MYM) it’s very easy to keep track of the internals of the MYM .


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 smtlaissezfaire 
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So basically intraday I should also monitor the 30 dow companies (vs. say NYSE TICK?)? Are there other internals I should be watching out for? Rotations into defensives vs. cyclicals (dow vs. nasdaq?) What else should I watch out for intraday?

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So basically intraday I should also monitor the 30 dow companies (vs. say NYSE TICK?)? Are there other internals I should be watching out for? Rotations into defensives vs. cyclicals (dow vs. nasdaq?) What else should I watch out for intraday?



The NYSE TICK will help to reflect the markets momentum. If you add the NYSE ADD can help reflect the strength of the market.


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So basically intraday I should also monitor the 30 dow companies (vs. say NYSE TICK?)? Are there other internals I should be watching out for? Rotations into defensives vs. cyclicals (dow vs. nasdaq?) What else should I watch out for intraday?



I only do swing algorithmic trading on daily charts, so from a standpoint of discretionary intraday I have no idea what you would have to be looking at to be successful. But I wouldn’t even try it. I’ve spend countless hours developing “intraday” systems that close at the end of stock session and it seems almost impossible. I was just saying that if you’re bored with bonds a great place to look for action with little danger is the micros.


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