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Intraday Margins 22/03/23

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 JordonDavies 
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Hi there,

Quick query regarding NinjaTrader

I've only got $123 in my account and went to place a trade on the MES 18:37 UK time (30 mins ago), I could not take the trade as it said the margins were $200. I haven't seen an e-mail seeing the margins have increased? 30 minutes later, I am now allowed to place a trade? very frustrating as I've been waiting for days for a perfect set up so I don't blow up the account and now missed out on a 130 tick trade.

Is it purely because volatility had increased or am I being paranoid? I understand they can change the margins requirements whenever but I thought you'd at least get an e-mail notifying intraday margin changes?

Thanks,
Jordon

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 chasepatrol 
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Hi there,

Quick query regarding NinjaTrader

I've only got $123 in my account and went to place a trade on the MES 18:37 UK time (30 mins ago), I could not take the trade as it said the margins were $200. I haven't seen an e-mail seeing the margins have increased? 30 minutes later, I am now allowed to place a trade? very frustrating as I've been waiting for days for a perfect set up so I don't blow up the account and now missed out on a 130 tick trade.

Is it purely because volatility had increased or am I being paranoid? I understand they can change the margins requirements whenever but I thought you'd at least get an e-mail notifying intraday margin changes?

Thanks,
Jordon

That's up to your broker. I'm with AMP, they informed customers yesterday that margins will be 25% higher due to the FOMC event.
Information about restored margin back to standard Day Trading Margin came 7:15pm CET.

This is not atypical for brokers to increase margin before predictable big events like FOMC.

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 JordonDavies 
Seven Sisters Neath Port Talbot Wales
 
Experience: Beginner
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That's up to your broker. I'm with AMP, they informed customers yesterday that margins will be 25% higher due to the FOMC event.
Information about restored margin back to standard Day Trading Margin came 7:15pm CET.

This is not atypical for brokers to increase margin before predictable big events like FOMC.

Thanks for your reply chasepatrol.


I just had reply from customer service,

''During times of volatility margins may be increased for example today for the FOMC announcement. You can find any margin changes up-to-date on our page linked below:
https://ninjatrader.com/blog/order-desk-updates/
Please let us know if we may be of further assistance.''

However the link they mentioned haven't been update since 2 days ago and had no e-mail of margin changes. I'm gutted, but never mind lesson learnt!

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ohatakkaa
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The brokers can change margin requirements any second they want, even if it forces your position to a margin call. Trading an account with barely the margin requirement is just dumb. Paper trade and save up until you can fund an account properly.

Also, being aware of market-moving news is essential. Today was an FOMC day and you probably shouldn't even have been trading during the news.

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