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stanowen
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I've got a (probably stupid) question regarding the cumulative delta indicator. If market orders are the only type of order that moves price how can price move up if cumulative delta is moving down and market orders are hitting the bid? I understand absorption, but such an occurrence would result in prices remaining stagnant, i.e. cumulative delta moving down, market orders hitting the bid, but price not falling because buyers keep reloading their limit orders. So if cumulative delta is moving down because market orders are hitting the bid, what could possibly be moving the market up? How does divergence where cumulative delta is moving down while price is moving up, occur?

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 shokunin 
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I've got a (probably stupid) question regarding the cumulative delta indicator. If market orders are the only type of order that moves price how can price move up if cumulative delta is moving down and market orders are hitting the bid? I understand absorption, but such an occurrence would result in prices remaining stagnant, i.e. cumulative delta moving down, market orders hitting the bid, but price not falling because buyers keep reloading their limit orders. So if cumulative delta is moving down because market orders are hitting the bid, what could possibly be moving the market up? How does divergence where cumulative delta is moving down while price is moving up, occur?

Imagine there are 20 bid @3900.00 and 20 offer @3900.25. Imagine there are 10 market 'sells' hitting the bid at 3900. Then imagine the offers @3900.25 get pulled and new bids are placed at 3900.25. Then you get one 'buy' lifting the offer at 3900.50. In this case, you have 9 negative delta, but price has still moved up.

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Imagine there are 20 bid @3900.00 and 20 offer @3900.25. Imagine there are 10 market 'sells' hitting the bid at 3900. Then imagine the offers @3900.25 get pulled and new bids are placed at 3900.25. Then you get one 'buy' lifting the offer at 3900.50. In this case, you have 9 negative delta, but price has still moved up.

Thank you for taking the time to explain that, it makes perfect sense.

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You are asking the right questions. The fatal flaw with cumulative delta is that market makers pulling their orders and just letting it tick up or down on a minimal number of contracts is very influential on price. CD is very useful, but it only shows one side.

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