NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Best deal on futures margin


Discussion in Traders Hideout

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one NC001 with 4 posts (2 thanks)
    2. looks_two kevinkdog with 3 posts (10 thanks)
    3. looks_3 Daytrader999 with 1 posts (2 thanks)
    4. looks_4 bobwest with 1 posts (4 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one bobwest with 4 thanks per post
    2. looks_two kevinkdog with 3.3 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 Daytrader999 with 2 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 NC001 with 0.5 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 2,891 views
    2. thumb_up 20 thanks given
    3. group 4 followers
    1. forum 10 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




 
Search this Thread

Best deal on futures margin

  #1 (permalink)
NC001
raleigh nc wake
 
Posts: 10 since May 2020
Thanks Given: 10
Thanks Received: 1

New to futures trading and need suggestions on best platforms with lowest margin

Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
REcommedations for programming help
Sierra Chart
Cheap historycal L1 data for stocks
Stocks and ETFs
 
  #2 (permalink)
 kevinkdog   is a Vendor
 
Posts: 3,664 since Jul 2012
Thanks Given: 1,892
Thanks Received: 7,359

Since you are new to futures, would you like my view on looking for the lowest margins?

Just say no if you want me to be quiet.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #3 (permalink)
NC001
raleigh nc wake
 
Posts: 10 since May 2020
Thanks Given: 10
Thanks Received: 1


Sure, I want input on the best, all around choice

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)
 kevinkdog   is a Vendor
 
Posts: 3,664 since Jul 2012
Thanks Given: 1,892
Thanks Received: 7,359


NC001 View Post
Sure, I want input on the best, all around choice

I would recommend not basing your choice on lowest margin requirements. That can easily lead to oversizing, which just leads to a much greater chance of blowing out the account.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)
Mozart2112
Minoqua Wi USA
 
Posts: 123 since Sep 2019
Thanks Given: 69
Thanks Received: 86


kevinkdog View Post
I would recommend not basing your choice on lowest margin requirements. That can easily lead to oversizing, which just leads to a much greater chance of blowing out the account.

Although I agree with this statement, I also believe that once a trader has his emotions and discipline in check via a trading plan or whatnot, having a low margin account should not be a problem. It is a traders emotions that can lead to oversizing and a whole slew of problems there after. But, that's a whole other topic....

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #6 (permalink)
 kevinkdog   is a Vendor
 
Posts: 3,664 since Jul 2012
Thanks Given: 1,892
Thanks Received: 7,359


Mozart2112 View Post
Although I agree with this statement, I also believe that once a trader has his emotions and discipline in check via a trading plan or whatnot, having a low margin account should not be a problem. It is a traders emotions that can lead to oversizing and a whole slew of problems there after. But, that's a whole other topic....

A random string of "bad luck" trades, or even one really bad luck trade, can easily wipe out small accounts. And that is regardless of emotions and discipline.

The Swiss Franc unpegging a few years ago was a good example. Thousands of traders wiped out, or worse yet ending up with a debit balance, in the blink of an eye.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #7 (permalink)
Chence27
Coronel Vivida, Parana/Brazil
 
Posts: 3 since Jan 2021
Thanks Given: 0
Thanks Received: 1

Are you going to start with micro futures or jump right into the eminis? I googled the lowest commission brokers for micros and I think I might be going with Ninjatrader.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #8 (permalink)
NC001
raleigh nc wake
 
Posts: 10 since May 2020
Thanks Given: 10
Thanks Received: 1

Thanks, everyone, for your input. I was just wondering how much to transfer into an initial account. I plan to trade 1 or 2 contracts of NQ.

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)
 
Daytrader999's Avatar
 Daytrader999 
Ilsede, Germany
Site Moderator
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader 8
Broker: Rithmic / CQG / Ninja Trader Brokerage
Trading: NQ
Posts: 1,525 since Sep 2011
Thanks Given: 2,067
Thanks Received: 2,316


NC001 View Post
Thanks, everyone, for your input. I was just wondering how much to transfer into an initial account. I plan to trade 1 or 2 contracts of NQ.

For NQ I'd suggest a minimum of $5k per contract if you want to use reasonable stops in this fast and volatile market.

"If you don't design your own life plan, chances are you'll fall into someone else's plan. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much." - Jim Rohn
Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #10 (permalink)
 
bobwest's Avatar
 bobwest 
Western Florida
Site Moderator
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: ES, YM
Frequency: Several times daily
Duration: Minutes
Posts: 8,172 since Jan 2013
Thanks Given: 57,495
Thanks Received: 26,292



Mozart2112 View Post
Although I agree with this statement, I also believe that once a trader has his emotions and discipline in check via a trading plan or whatnot, having a low margin account should not be a problem. It is a traders emotions that can lead to oversizing and a whole slew of problems there after. But, that's a whole other topic....

I'm afraid that lower margins are always a potential problem. There is less to fall back on, plus there is really no guarantee that the trader will always have his/her emotions in check, which is seriously dangerous with a small account, and you never know what is going to happen, entirely apart from your own actions.


kevinkdog View Post
A random string of "bad luck" trades, or even one really bad luck trade, can easily wipe out small accounts. And that is regardless of emotions and discipline.

The Swiss Franc unpegging a few years ago was a good example. Thousands of traders wiped out, or worse yet ending up with a debit balance, in the blink of an eye.

Exactly.

--------------

With all that said, just start out with more than you think you will need. You can quite easily find brokers who will offer day-trading margins of only $500 per contract. But dom't take them up on it. Use more.

You won't really need to search for them; just visit the web sites of a number of futures brokers and you will find them. But don't succumb to the temptation. Especially if you are trading NQ, which is a very sudden, quickly-moving account killer. About 10 times that $500/contract might not be enough. If you are under-funded, you will likely have an unwelcome surprise.

A better option, if cash is tight, is to use the micro contracts. MNQ has a tenth of the value per point of regular NQ and could be traded with smaller margin with a tenth of the risk. If you trade it well, you can build your account soon enough. If you don't trade it well, you will lose less, and less quickly, than with full NQ.

Good luck. Be careful.

Bob.

When one door closes, another opens.
-- Cervantes, Don Quixote
Reply With Quote




Last Updated on January 15, 2021


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts