NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Reinventing the Wheel


Discussion in Traders Hideout

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one caprica with 2 posts (1 thanks)
    2. looks_two fragalles with 2 posts (0 thanks)
    3. looks_3 sam028 with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    4. looks_4 RJay with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    1. trending_up 3,624 views
    2. thumb_up 1 thanks given
    3. group 4 followers
    1. forum 6 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




 
Search this Thread

Reinventing the Wheel

  #1 (permalink)
fragalles
Germany
 
Posts: 4 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 0
Thanks Received: 0

Hello

from looking at this forum I can see that everyone is trying to invent more or less his own trading system.

I wonder if there are really no profitable ones out there to adapt.
I mean looking at popular franchises like mc donalds, wal-mart that all do the same in each and every city and being successful there gotta be some strategies out there that a disciplined traders can purchase and execute and well get decent profits.

I am pretty new to this business but from looking at the following results, I think its possible to purchase an already working system and just trade it:

Day Trading Online Performance with the Unique Camarilla {b} Equation
Trading Examples
Forex Day Trading - Track Our Trading Room Performance each Market Session

On the other hand, some gurus that claim to be the best traders in the world (larry williams) is only up 700$ in his e-mini trading newsletter Larry Williams, Futures Trading, Futures Newsletters Track Records

Please let me know if you had some experince with purchased system, did they not work for you because of huge drawdown ...?

Cheers
Fragalles

Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
Trade idea based off three indicators.
Traders Hideout
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
Cheap historycal L1 data for stocks
Stocks and ETFs
 
  #2 (permalink)
 
caprica's Avatar
 caprica 
USA
 
Experience: Master
Platform: NinjaTrader
Posts: 155 since Jul 2009
Thanks Given: 45
Thanks Received: 114

there are many profitable "systems" if you mean something that tells you when to buy like a signal generator. the issue is indicators never made anyone money, except the people selling them.

most traders turn what you would consider a profitable system into a losing one because of the mental aspect of trading, the lack of following rules, the lack of a well executed plan, the lack of money management, all that.

for instance you may spend weeks or months developing a new indicator based entry. you love it its fantastic. then you take a few stops and what do you do? you go back to the drawing board and make changes and add more indicators and new settings. rinse repeat.

"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)
fragalles
Germany
 
Posts: 4 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 0
Thanks Received: 0



caprica View Post
there are many profitable "systems" if you mean something that tells you when to buy like a signal generator. the issue is indicators never made anyone money, except the people selling them.

most traders turn what you would consider a profitable system into a losing one because of the mental aspect of trading, the lack of following rules, the lack of a well executed plan, the lack of money management, all that.

for instance you may spend weeks or months developing a new indicator based entry. you love it its fantastic. then you take a few stops and what do you do? you go back to the drawing board and make changes and add more indicators and new settings. rinse repeat.

I would like to do my trading like running a mac donalds restaurant: someone gave me the instructions how to run the restaurant, I dont change the rules, I simply let the customers come in and make money over time...

Do you know any institutions that evaluates trading systems, so I can be sure when signing up for one it is the best "franchise" available (e.g. one that does not fail on the test of time)

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)
 
caprica's Avatar
 caprica 
USA
 
Experience: Master
Platform: NinjaTrader
Posts: 155 since Jul 2009
Thanks Given: 45
Thanks Received: 114


fragalles View Post
Do you know any institutions that evaluates trading systems, so I can be sure when signing up for one it is the best "franchise" available (e.g. one that does not fail on the test of time)

Trading Systems | Attain Capital Management

Trading System Rankings at Collective2

Fully Automated Trading System - Online Trading Platform

I'm sure there are many others as well.

"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #5 (permalink)
 
RJay's Avatar
 RJay 
Hartford, CT. USA
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker: AMP/CQG, Kinetick
Trading: RTY
Posts: 683 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 758
Thanks Received: 787

I love the way these web sites post "hypothetical" results.

Why don't they just post their real stats.

RJay

Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)
 
sam028's Avatar
 sam028 
Site Moderator
 
Posts: 3,765 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 3,825
Thanks Received: 4,629

fragalles, you should try Day Trading - Strategies for Day Trading in the Financial Markets , one week free trial, and you'll see if it's fine for you or not.
I've tested them few years ago, and didn't like it: having just signals, without an idea of how deep your stops might be, no money management, no targets...

Just having a signal, "buy/sell now !!!", well, it's not enough.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)
 
sharky's Avatar
 sharky 
MIAMI,FL
Legendary Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, tradingview
Broker: Private
Trading: Crypto and natural gas
Posts: 1,063 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 625
Thanks Received: 3,906

if you go down that road of looking for others system to trade for you in 5 years you will be back to basics learning how to trade..... just my oppinion...sharky

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote




Last Updated on July 28, 2009


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts