Easylanguage vs. C++

July 15th, 2010, 01:46 PM

I'm new to developing + backtesting of trading systems and I'm not an expert in programming.
I was wondering if anyone recommends learning C++ or Easy language.

At the moment I'm considering C++ as it is being use for NT, which I can use for free to create and backtest strategies.
Any comments are welcome.

Regards,

Dennis

July 15th, 2010, 02:08 PM

I am also no expert but NT uses C#, not C++.

EasyLanguage is easier to learn, though C# is more powerful. It depends what you like to do. I think in most cases EasyLanguage is still enough.

July 15th, 2010, 06:14 PM

I used to be a programmer in C++ (about 15 years ago).

Over the past two months I have relearnt my C++ skills to develop strategies in NT which uses C## (pretty similiar to C++). However I got really frustrated with NT with "errors" in backtesting - introduced primarily through the way it handled OHLC information.

Consequently I downloaded MC and taught myself EasyLanguage. This is pretty simple and quite powerful. Check out Mike's video on NT vs MC where demonstrates what is required to create a simple backtesting strategy in both NT and MC. It will probably make your mind up for you...

My two cents is that it is not about the programming language but the backtesting tool.

July 15th, 2010, 08:47 PM

If you are new to both, easy language is, by far, easier to get started with. If you are interested in super cool indicators, then C# will be better long term, but for doing simple back tests of simple ideas, EL will get the job done.

July 16th, 2010, 02:04 AM

Remember cool and complex does not mean profitable

If you want my opinion - I prefer EasyLanguage, and I am a programmer at heart and know many languages and programmed in C# NinjaScript for a long time. EasyLanguage is better for me personally, for what I want to accomplish, which is to make money.

Mike

July 16th, 2010, 04:06 PM

diverdan

Check out Mike's video on NT vs MC where demonstrates what is required to create a simple backtesting strategy in both NT and MC.

Could you please provide a link to this video?

Thanks!

July 16th, 2010, 05:35 PM

As a result of your replies, platform discussions, and Mike's video: MC vs NT strategy [AUTOLINK]backtesting[/AUTOLINK] and optimization. I'm reassessing my trading platform, taking into account that Easylanguage is easier to learn.

July 16th, 2010, 11:23 PM

janson

Could you please provide a link to this video?

Thanks!

Here it is:

VIDEO: MultiCharts vs. NinjaTrader strategy backtesting and optimization

In this video I conducted a head-to-head comparison of MultiCharts and NinjaTrader evaluating which performed better for backtesting and optimization.

The data was provided by IQFeed, for ES S&P 500, 5-minute bars over a period of 2 years (3/22/2008 …

Mike

July 27th, 2010, 11:31 AM

janson

I am also no expert but NT uses C#, not C++.

EasyLanguage is easier to learn, though C# is more powerful. It depends what you like to do. I think in most cases EasyLanguage is still enough.

Hi,

I need to code the following strategy:

CONDITION 1 (UP):
when the previus bar (instrument ES, for instance) closes in high (GREEN) or doji and the next bar opens with a gap (at least 1 tick above the last close bar), the strategy place a Bracket Order:
- buy limit order (first tick of the next bar) +
- profit target (7 ticks) +
- stop loss (7 ticks), trailing stop (1 tick)

CONDITION 2 (DOWN):
when the previus bar (instrument ES, for instance) closes in down (RED) or doji and the next bar opens with a gap (at least 1 tick below the last close bar), the strategy place a Bracket Order:
- a sell limit order (first tick of the next bar) +
- profit target (7 ticks) +
- stop loss (7 ticks), trailing stop (1tick)

Do you know if it is it possible to code this strategy using EasyLanguage?
If so, could you write this code, please?
I don't know nothing about how to programming.

Tks,

traderfranco

July 28th, 2010, 07:30 AM

Instead of writting whole code , I would give u some simple possible ways to code what u r asking.

To code GREEN Candle : condition1= Open[0] < Close[0] ;
To code DOJI ( a perfect one ) : condition2 = (Open[0]=Close[0]);

To code gap u can use something like :

Inputs : profitticks(7), Stopticks(7),TrStopticks(1);

Vars : boolean isGap(false);
Vars:TickSize(PriceScale/MinMove);

if Open[0]>= (Close[1] + TickSize*PointValue ) then isGap=true;

// here ur limit entry order is little tricky. Long Limit orders can be specified if market is trading above ur limit price . Here i would use another way. It may have some slippage.

If (condition1 or Condition2 ) and isGap=true then
begin
Buy 1 contract next bar at open; { Using market order instead of limit orders }
end;

If market0osition>0 then begin
SetProfitTarget(profitticks*TickSize*PointValue);
SetStoploss(Stopticks*TickSize*PointValue);
SetTrailingStoploss(TrStopticks*TickSize*PointValue);
end;

Same with Short side.

Hope this will give u some idea.

Please bear if there is any error with code. As i didnt test it.

Darshiit

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