NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Broker dilemma


Discussion in Platforms and Indicators

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one Incognito with 3 posts (2 thanks)
    2. looks_two mgcharl with 1 posts (3 thanks)
    3. looks_3 stoptions with 1 posts (1 thanks)
    4. looks_4 bofh with 1 posts (1 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one bobwest with 5 thanks per post
    2. looks_two mgcharl with 3 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 Galactor with 3 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Incognito with 0.7 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 2,356 views
    2. thumb_up 15 thanks given
    3. group 5 followers
    1. forum 9 posts
    2. attach_file 1 attachments




 
Search this Thread

Broker dilemma

  #1 (permalink)
Incognito
Rome Italy
 
Posts: 22 since Apr 2019
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 14

I am a trader who likes to keep it simple. I only use order flow, inter-market correlations & pivot levels as variables of my strategies. I have a huge dilemma on which broker would be ideal for me; ninjatrader or tradestation? Which broker offers the best executions/fills? I only use footprint charts as an 'indicator' if you may call it one... so I'm looking for a simple platform with no lag and great fills, that's all. Any suggestions?

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
Better Renko Gaps
The Elite Circle
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
 
  #3 (permalink)
 Galactor 
Cologne Germany
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: Emini ES
Posts: 1 since Mar 2019
Thanks Given: 0
Thanks Received: 1


I'm using Sierra Chart (Footprint and so on). That's a good platform for that. My broker is IB (only for the order execution, not the datafeed, because the IB datafeed is quite poor). I think, that's a good combination. Did you ever try Sierra Chart? It could be a good alternative.

Sent using the NexusFi mobile app

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #4 (permalink)
Incognito
Rome Italy
 
Posts: 22 since Apr 2019
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 14


Galactor View Post
I'm using Sierra Chart (Footprint and so on). That's a good platform for that. My broker is IB (only for the order execution, not the datafeed, because the IB datafeed is quite poor). I think, that's a good combination. Did you ever try Sierra Chart? It could be a good alternative.

Sent using the NexusFi mobile app

Hey, Thanks for your reccomendation. I forgot to mention that I would be trading via topsteptrader. Therefore, my only options are Ninjatrader or Tradestation...

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #5 (permalink)
 bofh 
Chicago, IL
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: SierraChart
Trading: /ES /CL
Posts: 15 since Mar 2018
Thanks Given: 4
Thanks Received: 20


Incognito View Post
Hey, Thanks for your reccomendation. I forgot to mention that I would be trading via topsteptrader. Therefore, my only options are Ninjatrader or Tradestation...

With TopStepTrader you should be able to use SierraChart. As per TST you can use any platform that supports Rithmic.

https://help.futures.topstep.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001385747-What-if-my-preferred-platform-isn-t-listed-

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #6 (permalink)
 
bobwest's Avatar
 bobwest 
Western Florida
Site Moderator
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: ES, YM
Frequency: Several times daily
Duration: Minutes
Posts: 8,172 since Jan 2013
Thanks Given: 57,515
Thanks Received: 26,292


Incognito View Post
I am a trader who likes to keep it simple. I only use order flow, inter-market correlations & pivot levels as variables of my strategies. I have a huge dilemma on which broker would be ideal for me; ninjatrader or tradestation? Which broker offers the best executions/fills? I only use footprint charts as an 'indicator' if you may call it one... so I'm looking for a simple platform with no lag and great fills, that's all. Any suggestions?


Incognito View Post
Hey, Thanks for your reccomendation. I forgot to mention that I would be trading via topsteptrader. Therefore, my only options are Ninjatrader or Tradestation...

You've got more choices than that with Topstep, unless I didn't understand you:



(Source: https://help.futures.topstep.com/hc/en-us/articles/115010515748-Platform-Comparison- )

Also, they seem to be expanding their list now and then. I think that you can use any trade platform that can use Righmic on request... Here is a detailed list of at least some that are supported: https://help.futures.topstep.com/hc/en-us/categories/202873907-Trading-Platforms

It gets more complicated, because NinjaTrader Brokerage, for instance, is an "Introducing Broker" -- your actual account (in terms of which firm has your money) is not with them, but with either Dorman Trading or Phillip Capital, the "FCM's" ("Futures Commission Merchant" -- yeah, that's a dumb thing to call it, but it means, "your broker") that NT "introduces" you to. Then it's more complicated than that, because executions will depend on the trade service your FCM uses (I believe one uses CQG and the other uses Rithmic, but I don't recall now.)

Now, TradeStation is one integrated thing, an FCM with its own trading platform (and data and trade feed.) Although this makes it simpler, it may not necessarily make it better (or worse, either.)

More, the questions about executions (fills, etc.) are not the same as the questions about platforms (meaning: the trading software application you have on your screen that you enter trades into.) Generally, execution may not depend on broker (FCM) either, but on the data/trading service (CQG, Rithmic, etc.). Dang.

So which is better? Don't blame me when I say "that depends" -- I'm just trying to fill out the picture of what is going on.

How to decide?

I suspect most people do as I have done -- when I used the NinjaTrader software, I let TST hook me up to whoever they used with Ninja; now that I prefer Sierra Chart, they can connect me to whoever they want to use for that. I don't know much about TradeStation -- I believe they do their own data and trade routing, so someone with experience with them may have more to say.

But in general, I would go first with the trading software (NT, Sierra, whatever) and assume the executions will work well, unless I had definite information to the contrary.

Bob.

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)
Incognito
Rome Italy
 
Posts: 22 since Apr 2019
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 14


bobwest View Post
You've got more choices than that with Topstep, unless I didn't understand you:



(Source: https://help.futures.topstep.com/hc/en-us/articles/115010515748-Platform-Comparison- )

Also, they seem to be expanding their list now and then. I think that you can use any trade platform that can use Righmic on request... Here is a detailed list of at least some that are supported: https://help.futures.topstep.com/hc/en-us/categories/202873907-Trading-Platforms

It gets more complicated, because NinjaTrader Brokerage, for instance, is an "Introducing Broker" -- your actual account (in terms of which firm has your money) is not with them, but with either Dorman Trading or Phillip Capital, the "FCM's" ("Futures Commission Merchant" -- yeah, that's a dumb thing to call it, but it means, "your broker") that NT "introduces" you to. Then it's more complicated than that, because executions will depend on the trade service your FCM uses (I believe one uses CQG and the other uses Rithmic, but I don't recall now.)

Now, TradeStation is one integrated thing, an FCM with its own trading platform (and data and trade feed.) Although this makes it simpler, it may not necessarily make it better (or worse, either.)

More, the questions about executions (fills, etc.) are not the same as the questions about platforms (meaning: the trading software application you have on your screen that you enter trades into.) Generally, execution may not depend on broker (FCM) either, but on the data/trading service (CQG, Rithmic, etc.). Dang.

So which is better? Don't blame me when I say "that depends" -- I'm just trying to fill out the picture of what is going on.

How to decide?

I suspect most people do as I have done -- when I used the NinjaTrader software, I let TST hook me up to whoever they used with Ninja; now that I prefer Sierra Chart, they can connect me to whoever they want to use for that. I don't know much about TradeStation -- I believe they do their own data and trade routing, so someone with experience with them may have more to say.

But in general, I would go first with the trading software (NT, Sierra, whatever) and assume the executions will work well, unless I had definite information to the contrary.

Bob.

Very helpful! Thanks so much! I'll be going with Ninjatrader since I've been sim trading on it.

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)
stoptions
Allen Texas/USA
 
Posts: 3 since Mar 2016
Thanks Given: 5
Thanks Received: 1

Be aware that Sierra drops the Rithmic feed from time to time during the day. I would not use Sierra as my only way to trade thru Rithmic.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #9 (permalink)
 
mgcharl's Avatar
 mgcharl 
London, UK
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra Chart
Trading: ES
Posts: 359 since Aug 2010
Thanks Given: 951
Thanks Received: 1,458


stoptions View Post
Be aware that Sierra drops the Rithmic feed from time to time during the day. I would not use Sierra as my only way to trade thru Rithmic.


I had that problem too but managed to find a workaround. If you add a quoteboard and add the current contract you’re trading it must continuously poll the Rithmic API which prevents the timeout issue that causes the disconnects. I just leave the quote board minimized and haven’t had any problems since.


Sent using the NexusFi mobile app

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #10 (permalink)
 
LittleFinger's Avatar
 LittleFinger 
Denver Colorado/USA
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: SierraChart
Broker: AMP
Trading: ES
Posts: 116 since May 2017
Thanks Given: 132
Thanks Received: 145


I have been playing with SC for a couple years and would recommend it. If you are considering using Tradestation I would read this review I saw recently:


The ACSIL features in SC seem to be robust and well thought out. I am enjoying learning how to code my own strategies in it.

I haven't played with the DOM and manual trading features much but they look adequate.

Reply With Quote




Last Updated on May 1, 2019


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts