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Help requested for new NT8 'Alert' feature votes...

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 ShaneAU 
Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
 
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Hi guys,

I have a Suggested Feature Request in for improving the NT8 'Alerts' and thought I would briefly explain it here to try and get some support. I’ve included a brief overview below, and if the suggestion appeals to you it would be greatly appreciated if you could add a +1 post to my thread on the NT support forums at Alert Templates Request (From todays Webinar) - [AUTOLINK]NinjaTrader[/AUTOLINK] Support Forum.

Here is the issue: The new NT8 alerts can do an amazing amount of stuff, but the surrounding UI makes it too time consuming to do even simple tasks efficiently.
For example, if we have an alert that we use often, such as a ‘beep’ and ‘popup’ when the price breaks a certain point (i.e. a horizontal line), this takes 13 mouse clicks to achieve in NT8 (3 mouse clicks to create the horizontal line and a further 10 mouse clicks to attach the beeping/popup alert). In many areas of NT8 you can either save a ‘template’ or a ‘preset’ - but neither of these exist in alerts.

The basic concept is to have a more efficient way to add alerts and also a quicker way to attach alerts to drawing objects. In particular, I believe it should be very simple to create an alert when a price level is broken, and that the software should then have an efficient way of going to that chart where the alert was activated.

There are a number of ways this concept can be achieved. Some suggestions that I (and others) have put forward for consideration are:
  • Being able to save a default template (or preset) for alerts. This would reduce the requirement down to 7 mouse clicks including 3 for drawing the line.
  • Being able to right-click any price level on a chart and ‘Add Alert’ in which case a horizontal line (or similar) is drawn with an alert attached. This would reduce the requirement down to only 2 mouse clicks.
  • Being able to assign a hotkey to a default alert setting, so we can tap a hot key and click on a price point and the alert is added (i.e. a horizontal line with default alert settings attached). This would reduce the requirement to 1 keyboard key and 1 mouse click.
  • Being able to right click on any drawing object and ‘Attach default alert template’. This would reduce the requirement down to 3 mouse clicks, plus those required for drawing the object.
  • Being able to automatically add a default alert template to a new drawing object type. For example if we want all horizontal lines to automatically have the default alert template added when we draw them.

There are two other suggestions I have for the Alerts (although these are less important than the suggestions above):
  • Firstly, is having a new alert ‘Action’ type which is a ‘Windows Notification’. My feeling is these are less obtrusive than a ‘popup’ and will stay in the bottom right of our screen until we can deal with it.
  • Secondly, is having a new button on the 'notification/popup' which says something like ‘Go to chart’. So when the alert popup appears, we can click this button and it will make that window/tab where the alert was activated the active window. This would be super helpful, as with the new tabbed chart interface it can be time consuming to navigate to the the chart where we created the alert.

(The suggested feature tracking is #878 at Alert Templates Request (From todays Webinar) - [AUTOLINK]NinjaTrader[/AUTOLINK] Support Forum)

Thanks for any help guys...
Cheers,
Shane

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@ShaneAU

Hi Shane,

LineAlert indicator from the download section can do what you are looking for. "Works with Line, Ray, HorizonalLine and ExtendedLine".


If you happen to convert this to NT8, appreciate if you can upload in this forum


SC

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 ShaneAU 
Gold Coast, Qld, Australia
 
Experience: Intermediate
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Thanks SC for providing that info and link, much appreciated.

I am going to give it a whirl converting to NT8, though I've been trying the last hour or so and am having a few issues as I have never worked with drawing tools in ninjascript, but if I am successful I will post the new version here.

This will be a good temporary solution, the only downsides that I can see is that the indicator appears to alert on all lines drawn on the chart, which could be a bit of a pain as I also use horizontal lines for my S/R lines, which I don't necessarily want to be alerted at every time... But I may be able to work around this in the meantime by creating a separate tabbed chart for where I place the lines which I wanted to be alerted to.

Thanks again and cheers,
Shane

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 ShaneAU 
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Thanks again SC for pointing me in that direction.

I wasn’t able to recode that indicator to NT8, but I have made a new indicator (attached to this post) which works on horizontal lines only.

Under the indicator parameters is the option of being alerted on a cross of all horizontal lines on a chart, or only lines of a certain colour.

For those who are interested, here are the steps to use:
  1. Copy the file and compile the indicator in NT8
  2. Attach the indicator to a chart (“HorizontalLineAlert”)
  3. Change the indicator parameters depending on whether you want it to alert on all horizontal lines or only lines of a particular colour
  4. Check you are happy with the re-arm time and other parameters
  5. Open an ‘Alerts Log’ window
  6. Start drawing your horizontal lines

This setup will increase the efficiency of adding price alerts down to only 2 mouse clicks (if you have the indicator set to alert on all horizontal lines).

If you don't want all horizontal lines to be alerts, then that’s where the specified colour comes in. Unfortunately NT8 is not very efficient at changing line colours either (it takes 5-6 mouse clicks). The way I am going to get around this is to use the indicator in conjunction with this Drawing Toolbar https://www.htech.net/product/toolbar-drawbar-ultimate-drawing/ which I understand should be released for NT8 in b11 (fingers crossed!). That will reduce changing the line colour down to only 1-2 mouse clicks.

Hope that helps and cheers,
Shane

PS: Please remember to add a vote at Alert Templates Request (From todays Webinar) - [AUTOLINK]NinjaTrader[/AUTOLINK] Support Forum if you think it would be helpful to see the changes I discussed in the original post implemented at a software level - without the requirement of adding indicators to charts like this one.

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jindol
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hi ShaneAU,

i was looking for a way how to add alerts to horizontal lines automatically in NT8 and came across your post here.
however when i tried to add that script in ninja i got error message that it comes from older incompatible version. by any chance do you have this somehow working?

thanks for help

jin

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 brucerobinson 
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Hello ShaneAU,
My experience with Ninja's Alerts is that it is a total abomination & having expended several hundred hours with it have consigned it to the rubbish bin.

You will find threads on the Forum from me, and in addition have been several Support email tickets.

My aims seem similar to yours, which are straight-forward, I expect very common, and well described in your initial postings - I want to be alerted when price approaches a High/Low indicator (Ninja OHL & Prior OHLC) level/line.

I've created these manually in NT8 with the hugely laborious process you describe, and several times it has destroyed the entire lot producing error codes (I am not using any third party indicators so Ninja can't play their usual blame game). And no template, so start from scratch - over 100 separate alerts for a relatively simple aim, over a 1000 mouse clicks.
I have a Support ticket open since before Christmas which they've gone silent on.
It is simply diabolical.

If you get your indicator working, please make it available here.

Kind regards,
Bruce

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