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I have traded equities ETFs and futures, but not forex. can anyone summarize what is unique about forex trading versus futures?

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I have traded equities ETFs and futures, but not forex. can anyone summarize what is unique about forex trading versus futures?


This applys to the popular pairs; EURUSD, GBPUSD, AUDUSD and assumes normal market conditions
  • liquidity is probably the big one. Unless your trading lots of 1 million+ in size your order will get a good fill even on a market order.
  • adjustable lot size range from 1000 to 1,000,000 plus with increments of 1000, 10,000, 100,000. Depending on the broker you can adjust size from 1000 to whatever by increments of 1000. This allows live trading with limited risk: 1000 = .10 a tick 10,000 = 1.00 a tick and so on.
  • Lower commissions. Most brokers do not have commission. They make their money off the spread which on the euro for example, is a couple of ticks. The better brokers charge commissions and have lower spreads. MB trading has a spread of 1 to 1.5 ticks on the euro where FXCM has a spread of 3 ticks. You get what you pay for.
  • 24 hour trading with better liquidity. Even after 5 pm the pairs are liquid enough to get out even with a large size position.
Those are the big ones from my perspective.

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The big difference and the reason I will never scalp again with FOREX is because you typically are not all sharing a central order book. It is all dependent upon what the Market Maker (your broker) will do for you and/or how quickly they can hedge your trade.

It all depends on your broker and they vary greatly! I like Dukascopy, IBFX, OANDA to name a few...

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This applys to the popular pairs; EURUSD, GBPUSD, AUDUSD and assumes normal market conditions
  • liquidity is probably the big one. Unless your trading lots of 1 million+ in size your order will get a good fill even on a market order.
  • adjustable lot size range from 1000 to 1,000,000 plus with increments of 1000, 10,000, 100,000. Depending on the broker you can adjust size from 1000 to whatever by increments of 1000. This allows live trading with limited risk: 1000 = .10 a tick 10,000 = 1.00 a tick and so on.
  • Lower commissions. Most brokers do not have commission. They make their money off the spread which on the euro for example, is a couple of ticks. The better brokers charge commissions and have lower spreads. MB trading has a spread of 1 to 1.5 ticks on the euro where FXCM has a spread of 3 ticks. You get what you pay for.
  • 24 hour trading with better liquidity. Even after 5 pm the pairs are liquid enough to get out even with a large size position.
Those are the big ones from my perspective.

SD


Thanks SD.

When you refer to lot size of 1000, what dollar value is that in equity?

1000 = .10 per tick as in ten cents?

Is the charting to trade EURUSD the same as to trade the 6E?

Can account equity be mingled with futures trading accounts?

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Thanks SD.

When you refer to lot size of 1000, what dollar value is that in equity?

1000 = .10 per tick as in ten cents?

Correct. Add 10 cents for every 1000 traded. 10,000 = 1 USD. 6e is worth 12.50 a tick. In FX that would be 125,000


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Is the charting to trade EURUSD the same as to trade the 6E?

Yes.. I dont want to say identical, but they trade very similar.



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Can account equity be mingled with futures trading accounts?

Depends on the broker. Interactive Brokers for example has futures / options / forex / etc all under one account. MB Trading has seperate accounts. Alot of brokers are Forex only.

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This applys to the popular pairs; EURUSD, GBPUSD, AUDUSD and assumes normal market conditions
  • Lower commissions. Most brokers do not have commission. They make their money off the spread which on the euro for example, is a couple of ticks. The better brokers charge commissions and have lower spreads. MB trading has a spread of 1 to 1.5 ticks on the euro where FXCM has a spread of 3 ticks. You get what you pay for.

SD

Hmmm, I would say the costs of placing a trade (commission) are less in futures. A spread of 1 to 1.5 pips in forex equates to $10.00 to $15.00 "commission" for a standard lot in Forex. I pay about $5.00 commission for a round turn in the 6E . And each tick on the 6E is worth $12.50.

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MB trading pay you to trade on their ENC when you use limit orders that rest on there ECN that then get filled.

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