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rassi,

I'm looking to find an automatic way to set profit targets and stop loss orders after a new position is put on. Haven't found it yet. But, during my testing so far I've already got in the habit of just hitting the OCO button and placing the stop and target where I want it.

It is true, it is different than NinjaTrader and it "feels" less automatic. I wouldn't mind having the feature, actually, so I emailed Dale @ Velocity and asked him, just to see if I am overlooking it. But, truth be told, I am already used to the manual OCO placement method, and since my stop and target are always different (not a pre-defined tick size) then really it isn't a huge deal for me.

If I find out how to do it I'll let you know.

I've attached a MP4 video to this post that shows the OCO option.

Mike

Thanks mike thats really helpfull, will look into it also and let you know how i get on!

 
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Thanks mike thats really helpfull, will look into it also and let you know how i get on!

I found out from Dale @ Velocity that this plug-in is needed to do what we are talking about:

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So, I now have the plug-in and I will test it out later today or tomorrow.

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I found out from Dale @ Velocity that this plug-in is needed to do what we are talking about:

Trading Technologies International, Inc.

So, I now have the plug-in and I will test it out later today or tomorrow.

Mike

Dang, you beat me to it, was just about to post the exact same thing!

 
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Dang, you beat me to it, was just about to post the exact same thing!

Are you talking to Dale @ Velocity, too?

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Attached is the manual for OCO Trader plug-in to X-Trader. Looks good

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Looks good thanks mike, I was talking to someone else on their live chat link who pointed me in the same direction.

Will have to work out how to set it up. I, like you, change the amounts per trade but like a standard default set up so I know when I enter I am covered on the stop side straight away. With NT its easy to just drag the stops and targets to where I want them!

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Here is another video playing with OCO Trader plug-in for automatic target and stop placement. I like how it can calculate in percentages of position size, that is fantastic. It's quite simple to use, much more so than NinjaTrader's ATM which always confused me for some reason.

Unfortunately my practice trades were losers in this example, lol, but I was just playing with large order quantity to see how it broke up lots at multiple levels.

There is also a trail feature which is straightforward.

See video.

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I've been playing with the X-Trader workspace. I am liking it quite a bit. So far I am finding the reporting tools to be really easy to understand. For some reason I always had a bit of trouble with Ninja's reporting toolset, I can't put my finger on it but following the sequence of a complex trade was never easy. It seems a lot easier in X-Trader.

I also really like the slider on the DOM (above the Trade Out button, I showed it briefly in last video). Very nice! It lets you zoom out on the DOM by collapsing price levels, so I can quickly set targets further away without having to scroll the DOM!

Also, the recenter feature of the DOM is smart. If I am in the middle of placing a target or stop, it won't recenter on me.

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There is still some DOM functionality I was hoping for but that I haven't figured out how to do, or if its even possible.

Let's say I am in a long position and my stop and target is set for this long position.

Now, I want to have a buy stop a few ticks beyond my current profit target --- a level where I want to re-enter the market, or add to a position.

I wish I could set stops and targets ahead of time for that order, but apparently you cannot. This is something I do somewhat regularly so I was hoping it could do it. I could use OCO Trader, but it's just cumbersome to try and quickly calculate the exact tick offset manually. I know where stop and target should be at a price level, I just wish I could do some sort of nested OCO group, like for X-Trader to know that this buy stop is 'group 2' and that when I follow it up with an OCO for my target/stop loss orders, that is also 'group 2' and should only execute after I am filled.

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Also, the recenter feature of the DOM is smart. If I am in the middle of placing a target or stop, it won't recenter on me.

Is there a mode that does not auto-center? I really prefer a static DOM.


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