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X-Trader Trading Platform

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Trade with the flow
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bathrobe View Post
Did your Velocity rep mention why they are 24 cents less if you use futuresbroker.com? Does one seem better than the other, for any reason other than commission?

They only publish commission rates for ES and she said it's for traders who trade ES. I'm not sure what the deal is really. It seems a bit suspicious, like a bait & switch or something. I can see if it was a different company and/or employees but the same Velocity rep answered the online chat so this futuresbroker.com website is just a front.

 
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specially OCO Trader Ltd... did you know that if you launch it more than once, all of them will take effect on your single DOM orders? yep... It drove me crazy and I could not figure out why the trades were not working or happening at odd places... gave up around 9AM since I was late for work.. closed my dom, ignore the messages.. and hopped on the car.

Interesting experience with this OCO stuff. I haven't tried it yet. So far I think the Ninja DOM's ATM is much more intuitive. For fast markets where this is important I'm still using the Ninja DOM. For slow markets where I have more time to analyze the DOM I am using X-Trader. Maybe when I get more comfortable with X I will do everything with X (if I get enough trades it's worth it to pay $650/month and get lower commissions).

 
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perhaps this was covered,
perhaps it needs to be repeated or highlighted or seperated into a follow-on thread,

but

what about the analytics on this platform?

the leader on the board remains NT and eSignal, perhaps MultiCharts,

the amount of 3rd party analytics also helps distinguish between supported vs. packaged,

so, where and how sophisticated are the analytics on X-Trader?

I always got the impression after trying it a few times, that it was a "for the moment" platform

 
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I always got the impression after trying it a few times, that it was a "for the moment" platform

Is there anything else?

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depends what you call analytics... and what market or investor/trader segment you are addressing...

in any event.... NT as an analytics platform is unstable, but RC1 has proven a bit more reliable... if userbase is the determination of how good a platform is, then sure.. NT since they give the product away... but I would say, baring not having REDIPlus for your OE and a Bloomberg for all your analytics... your options as retail are MarketDelta, MultiCharts, Tradestation, SierraCharts, NeoTicker, CQGIC, AmiBroker, Tradecision, Esignal, Ensign, MetaStock.. each one has a different user base and are much better foundational analytics platforms given their stability than NT.. ... again, depending on what your definition is... if you want your platform to do algo trading at the same time, or if you care to analyze options at the same time, or if you just want tons of "indicators" from others or create your own custom ones, etc...

To me XTrader is a good order entry platform... I would not use their charts... although I tried..


kronie View Post
perhaps this was covered,
perhaps it needs to be repeated or highlighted or seperated into a follow-on thread,

but

what about the analytics on this platform?

the leader on the board remains NT and eSignal, perhaps MultiCharts,

the amount of 3rd party analytics also helps distinguish between supported vs. packaged,

so, where and how sophisticated are the analytics on X-Trader?

I always got the impression after trying it a few times, that it was a "for the moment" platform


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cunparis View Post
They only publish commission rates for ES and she said it's for traders who trade ES. I'm not sure what the deal is really. It seems a bit suspicious, like a bait & switch or something. I can see if it was a different company and/or employees but the same Velocity rep answered the online chat so this futuresbroker.com website is just a front.

No front. FB is a division of VF.

Discounted commissions for ES traders that require less servicing.

If you have any questions about our services at Velocity Futures please send me a private message.
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I think i posted this before.. If you want help, you need to use their online chat tool.... Unless you want to get out of a position, then you can go ahead and call their support desk

 
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Do you need to pay for their plugins on X-trader ? How much ?

Thanks

 
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you get the one you need for free, assuming XTrader free... OCO and PS ...


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Do you need to pay for their plugins on X-trader ? How much ?

Thanks


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Is X-trader available in a 64bit version ??


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