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Trading Technologies Cloud-based 'TT' platform (2019)

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 SMCJB 
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I find it amazing that the product is three years old, they've discontinued ongoing support for XTrader and will fully decommission it in 5 months, and advanced users still consider the product to be in Beta. In my books that's an Epic Fail.

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 jokertrader 
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I have been using CQG and its really easy to build any exchange spreads you want and get historical data. Waiting to hear back from TT and will post once i get the answers.
For example:
- accessing symbols by numbers like CL?1 is the front month and CL?5 is the 5th month in CQG (much easier to build spreads with numbers)
- accessing historical data - could not find the documentation or template anywhere (like how do i get the daily close of say last X days)
- Linking spread matrix to excel (i think you could do this with x_trader) - so build a spread matrix say of 3 month spreads and link/download into Excel .. not as important if i can do directly in RTD


Anyway let me get through this and will post more once i get the answers

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- accessing symbols by numbers like CL?1 is the front month and CL?5 is the 5th month in CQG (much easier to build spreads with numbers)

Yes and No. If you want the 1-2 spread this is obviously better, but what about if you want the Z9-Z0 spread? Or the Z9-Z0-Z1 Butterly. Or to get crazy maybe the NG/HP Aug/Sep roll?

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 jokertrader 
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Got confirmation from TT sales today that
- No historical data access available through TT
- No data export from Chart at this time

I would think both these would have been available in X_trader

From TT Community on March 19:
Again, this is historical data, which we do not support today, but are planning to offer in a subsequent release.

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No historical data or backtesting in XTrader. One of the reasons (other than price!) that it was never popular with the retail crowd.

With regards to charting XTrader didn't chart. In order to chart you had to have XStudy. The interesting thing about XStudy was that your broker and not TT were responsible for maintaining their own price data base. In addition, all the data was captured and saved real time, with no way to fill in things you missed. So how good your XStudy data was very dependent upon your broker. Server goes down for an hour - you get a hole in your data - with no way to correct it!

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 jokertrader 
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The XStudy download is not a biggie ...software like Sierra and I am sure others allow you to download data into spreadsheet format. Not having historical data using RTD in my opinion is silly and makes the RTD functionality inferior to CQG Qtrader (which was a $40 product until recently)


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Every time I get a notification that somebody has replied to this thread I'm hoping its somebody from TT.

On subject @jokertrader as you know, on top of my multiple XTrader subscriptions I pay for historical (excel addin) downloadable data and pay a lot more than the numbers you mention for it!
(On a tangentable subject I have discovered an R API package that will allow me to download it directly into R).

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No historical data or backtesting in XTrader. One of the reasons (other than price!) that it was never popular with the retail crowd.

On the way for TT!

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 SMCJB 
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Platform: TT and Stellar
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Frequency: Many times daily
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It's been coming soon for years!

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 addchild 
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CME order routing through TT has gone down three times this morning.
I'm very understanding about software hiccups, but this is getting a little out of hand.

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