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about Shadow Traders run by Barbara Cohan? (www.shadowtraders.com)

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Thanx for posting wannabe1 ... I've been interested in ST for quite awhile for a lot of the same reasons you mention.
I wasn't sure if I would be at a disadvantage joining but not purchasing the 4 Day Intensive Seminar as it would be almost double the $ commitment. If you don't mind me asking about your opinion above in Bold, does this come with membership or does one need to also purchase the 4 Day Intensive Seminar? If you would prefer that I PM you any ?'s or not answer at all I would completely understand.

The course was 999. or 1699. w/4-day seminar. I went with the course at 999. At anytime I choose, I can pay 700 more and get the 4day seminar. Once you purchase the 4day seminar for the extra 700 you may reattend all the future 4day seminars you choose for that 1 time 700 payment. If you choose to pay 1699 upfront you will have access to lifetime course & seminars. (Well, at least as long as they remain in business, I suppose).

The course includes 3months trade/chatroom after which you can pay a 100.00 a month for that if you choose. I have not been able to take advantage of that as of yet due to my day job, but you could record it if you wanted to review it later. There are two classes on wen.-thurs. with Melanie Son who is a trader and the tues. night webinar which is geared more towards recruiting (selling course to new students). There is in my opinion a wealth of knowledge offered up in the form of downloads, videos, tests, and much useful technical education, which is also of course available here on futures.io (formerly BMT) for 50.00.

So, for me this was the way to go, just in the time saving dept. of figuring out what info is important and what info. is a waste of my time at this point. Once I get a basic futures trading education I feel I will be set to move on to more advanced info. Hope this helps you and is not too confusing.

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Thank you wannabe1

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Hi all. I'm not sure where to post this, so I'll try this thread.

Does anyone here use Shadow Traders indicators? Are they still in business? Thanks for any help!

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Hi all. I'm not sure where to post this, so I'll try this thread.

Does anyone here use Shadow Traders indicators? Are they still in business? Thanks for any help!

@Lacie maybe this will help, a simple Google search will answer your 2nd ? If that is who you are talking about?
ShadowTraders offering Emini,Futures Trading,Currency Trading
and to your first ?
a quick look at their site looks like maybe, they are using some of what can be found right here at futures.io (formerly BMT).
one result from using futures.io (formerly BMT) search box for "fractals"
e.g. https://futures.io/download/vip_elite_circle/1136-download.html?view

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Risking 8 ticks to make 4 ticks is a tried and true vendor tactic that enables them to achieve a theoretical 80% or better win percentage. In the business it seems new traders need that 80% security blanket or they won't consider buying the trading system.

So if someone honest comes in and says: best case your gonna make 60% win percentage with our system, it's gonna be crickets chirping in an empty room when the laughing ends.

Anyways, if you want to have some real fun, ask for the record of their trades for the last two years. You know just to prove to yourself the system actually did win 80% of the time.

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Here's what happened to ShadowTraders

Just found an order from the CTFC regarding Barbara Cohen and Pure Reason (the umbrella company for ShadowTraders) that may be of interest:

CFTC Orders Florida Resident Barbara Cohen and Her Company, Pure Reason, LLC, to Pay a $140,000 Penalty for Cohen?s False Statements to the CFTC and for Not Disclosing that Profitable Trading Results Were Based on Hypothetical Trading

Here is a link to the actual legal document:

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Looks like ShadowTraders have come out of hybernation. This is part of a message just received:

As you may have already heard, Shadowtraders technology has been sold to an International Forex Trading Brokerage, GetForexSignalsNow.

This has been in the works for a very long time. So many legal issues to overcome, converting Shadowtraders software to MT4, expanding the auto-trading quants, etc. At last Shadowtraders is ready to move on.

The support you received for all these years will continue under the website, GetForexSignalsNow. Your membership in Shadowtraders has been transferred to the new website.

Does anybody have any experience with this new set up already?


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