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I would agree with Horst on most of these things. Now, a part of me of course chooses to defend myself and I also know there is the aspect of everyone is differnt. (Oklahoma spelling)

After having gone through many systems over the last couple years from technical to fundamental trading then I do believe like anything you get better over time. Horst specifically is helping me overcome some things but also teaching me to see things a little differently as someone who might have come from the same place. I see a different level of trading in him vice others and I would say that is from the time spent doing the method, but I could be wrong. Like I mentioned before, there is the possibility to really make a profitable start and no looking back.

I truly wish that for anyone, but I do believe that if you set those 'expectations' than many will be disappointed much like I was. I have a higher than average IQ, Millionaire by the time I was 30, Former Special Forces and a high achiever in everything I have done. My problem is actually following what someone tells me to do or to go along with the crowd!

Horst helps students as he is what I would almost call a MASTER Trader in my book. I believe trading is like a wine, gets better with age and letting it breathe a little longer is never a bad thing. It could be the most fantastic bottle its first year, while others truly get better over time.

Every trader wants to think they will sit back and collect a check because they invested money in a program etc... That was not me. For me it was the opposite over pushing myself to the extreme and having too much EGO. You may have other issues, but I think Henry is good at helping you see those possible issues.

I do not know of a better course in my opinion. Just watch Horsts Vids if you get back into the website and I think you will enjoy it. It is very motivating.

Henry has not kicked me out.... YET!

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7-10K to learn the MACD-bb on 7 time frames along with the subjective Fibonacci retracement method? God gave you a brain between the ears...USE IT. I left my other comments on Horsts journal,but he didnt like me taking a piss on it so he had a fit along with others. Understandable though,I would too. Cheers,each his own.


Dont like to see the SMALL GUY GET SCREWED BY SHARKS,because futures trading thats pretty much what happens,especially to the newbies. Kapeche? Verstehen sie?


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So whats you're point Neil? That you are too cheap to get a proper trading education. Great .....suits me well, I thank you. I would assume all the other professional traders out there thank you daily for your contributions as well. Keep buying those DVD's and "How To Trade Books", maybe even join one of them fancy trading rooms.

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Yep,I am not a Stooge to pay 7-10K for the MACD-bb and bunch of psyche mumbo jumbo. You one of the Stooges that did?

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So whats you're point Neil? That you are too cheap to get a proper trading education. Great .....suits me well, I thank you. I would assume all the other professional traders out there thank you daily for your contributions as well. Keep buying those DVD's and "How To Trade Books", maybe even join one of them fancy trading rooms.


Curley???? is that you?????

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Hey, I think it really comes down to a philosophical difference in my opinion. I agree, everything is between your ears, and I also agree that coaching can take you there that much quicker. I honestly question why someone charges if they are a profitable trader as well, and I have yet to understand why Henry does and only he can answer that question.

The key to me that is nice about the higher price tag is that maybe it is substantial enough to keep people running from one system to another? Maybe not. It has kept me from running to and fro or at least somewhat.

I agree that there are way too many scumbags in this business, but there are some good traders as well. The challenge is how do you impart the good trading upon your students as effectively as possible.

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.... Kapeche? Verstehen sie?

capiche

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Kapeche? Verstehen sie?

Capire (to understand)

Capisco (I understand)

Molto Grazie!

After all, it's what you learn AFTER you know it all, that counts!
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Yep,I am not a Stooge to pay 7-10K for the MACD-bb and bunch of psyche mumbo jumbo. You one of the Stooges that did?

The only real reason I can figure that someone would talk the way you're talking is either:

1) You've tried NFT, got "ripped off" because you didn't have success, and you have a grudge
2) You've been "ripped off" by someone else, and you have a grudge against anyone selling anything

People who haven't been "screwed" don't have such animosity towards people who sell something. If you genuinely wanted to help people, your tone would be more, well, helpful, and less aggressive towards a particular vendor.

I started a thread here on futures.io (formerly BMT) called something like "Friendly Challenge to Vendors" where I asked why any vendor would sell a trading system if it made money. So I'm as skeptical as anyone. But as much as you believe NFT has an agenda, you have given no proof or grounds for it, and for someone to go around bashing a particular method or vendor means you have an agenda too; people don't just go around doing that. Sounds like you belong over at elitetrader or something, where everyone's got something up their you-know-what.

What good vendors do is provide a structure, a framework, to traders who need it. There is no secret to the indicators here, or the price action, and it's not marketed as such. The key is the trader who uses the indicators, and from what I have seen, this is the focus of the NFT folks--developing the mindset of the trader. I've never bought a "system" or trading education, and maybe I never will, but for those who choose to, I wish them success, and maybe I'll be one of them soon.

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Another interesting .....


thread. I saw all the posts for "Horst's Trades" running through the chatbox and clicked over there for a dramatic reading. We seem to have posts ranging from shill to demigod. I had a couple thoughts that I will keep to myself. But the best part, of threads with there posts, is that they make you think about your own trading. And I have concluded that most maturing traders have the world by the balls and don't know it.

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