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Had to laugh $37,000 for software (www.orderflowpro.com)

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Ok, as promised I called the trade live and it was a winner on cl for 13 ticks, I did 3 cars on it, so a 39 ticks trade for me.

Now tell me, why would you want to pay 37k ?

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awesome effort... and well done...How many people took that signal with you.

Keep it up


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Just called out the second trade LIVE in the skype room, was a scalp for 5 ticks (not 4 as I tought previsously :-) so 3 cars, that was on the 6e, so 15 ticks profit.

There you have it, as promised I only called 2 trades, both of them winners, 100%

Now why do you need to pay 37k again ????

I can do just the same

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Just called out the second trade LIVE in the skype room, was a scalp for 5 ticks (not 4 as I tought previsously :-) so 3 cars, that was on the 6e, so 15 ticks profit.

There you have it, as promised I only called 2 trades, both of them winners, 100%

Now why do you need to pay 37k again ????

I can do just the same



I was in the room this morning and saw him making the calls live. It's nice, I like

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Ok, as promised I called the trade live and it was a winner on cl for 13 ticks, I did 3 cars on it, so a 39 ticks trade for me.

Now tell me, why would you want to pay 37k ?

What would really be great MetalTrader is if we could get some understanding of the tools you use, how you set up your charts and what constitutes a trade setup. Guess that's asking an awful lot but....

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You can come trade with me on monday in the bigmike skype trading room.

I will show you 2 trades within 2 hours. (if they appear I will take them and shout them out, before the trade)

They will be 100% winners. And it won't cost you a dime.

Your trades may have had a positive expectancy, but claiming that they will 100% winners is a bit exaggerated. I think that a certain modesty is one of the prerequisites for success as a trader. Those who are 100% sure of what they are doing, will blow their accounts sooner than later, as they are not prepared for the loss that will inevitably show up.

There are no 100% trades. Success depends on your edge, discipline and money management.

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Correct, because I have losing trades.

But I'm close to 8 or 9 positive out of 10 trades. If I'm really only taking the really conservatives ones, I'm very close to more than 9 winners on 10.

Loosing days is because I mess it up psychologically. But I'm very much improved on that part in the last months. I read Mark Douglas once a month.

I made that claim and demonstrated it is possible because I wanted to show that there is no need to pay $37.000 to see a trader make extremely good trades. Unfortunately a few on bigmike trading forum wants to make fun out of my hard work and achievements, I hope they stand up, be a man, and do the same as I did.

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I made that claim and demonstrated it is possible because I wanted to show that there is no need to pay $37.000 to see a trader make extremely good trades. Unfortunately a few on bigmike trading forum wants to make fun out of my hard work and achievements, I hope they stand up, be a man, and do the same as I did.

they wont do what you did... which was an excellent way to demonstrate that $37K is a fools bet to watch someone with no reputable credentials trade...

it is easy to post and sound very knowledgeable to massage their own egos while not having to expose themselves to any ridicule if they crack under the pressure of their trades being watched..

such is the nature of the fragile mind...

so dont hold your breath for too long..

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Correct, because I have losing trades.

But I'm close to 8 or 9 positive out of 10 trades. If I'm really only taking the really conservatives ones, I'm very close to more than 9 winners on 10.

Loosing days is because I mess it up psychologically. But I'm very much improved on that part in the last months. I read Mark Douglas once a month.

I made that claim and demonstrated it is possible because I wanted to show that there is no need to pay $37.000 to see a trader make extremely good trades. Unfortunately a few on bigmike trading forum wants to make fun out of my hard work and achievements, I hope they stand up, be a man, and do the same as I did.

If you can produce 7 winners for 3 losers with a R-Multiple of 1 in a consistent way, that is all you need to double your account. The key is discipline and money management (position sizing).

I do not think that anybody here needs to stand up and be a man. That is a bit of macho behavior. Not everybody is exhibitionist and wants to share or call all of her or his trades. If I make money, why do I need to prove it to anybody? I am not selling anything, after all. My method will not work for you and your method will certainly not work for me, which does not discredit either of them.

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If you can produce 7 winners for 3 losers with a R-Multiple of 1 in a consistent way, that is all you need to double your account. The key is discipline and money management (position sizing).

I do not think that anybody here needs to stand up and be a man. That is a bit of macho behavior. Not everybody is exhibitionist and wants to share or call all of her or his trades. If I make money, why do I need to prove it to anybody? I am not selling anything, after all. My method will not work for you and your method will certainly not work for me, which does not discredit either of them.

Oh I agree but it wasn't you who insinuated that what I did was not at all special, unfortunatly I never saw that person produce any profitable live trades like I did. I don't mind comments or critical posts, but do the same, show it like I did and then talk again. I hope that is the least I can ask in my defense.

look, i created a profitable trading style, it was the hardest thing i did in life and it has costed me extremely lots of money and effort. I even proved it by performing the above for free here, I think laughing it away was improper and disrespectfull. Especially from somebody who never did the same like I did.

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