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Why donít you take a 3 day trial and get a good feel of Ace System and his style

In the trial he will draw the blue line based on the 9 Keys

The system works but you will need to unlearn the bad habits and stop second guessing

Sharmas

Hi Sharmas,

Thank you so much for your reply!

I did the 3 day, I was hoping to get feedback from others that are actually members to see if you learn the strategies or keys so you can do them yourself?

I assume he's teaching some support and resistance keys for entry and targets?

Are you in his program Sharmas? If so can you tell me how it's working out for you?

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer!

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Hi Sharmas,



Thank you so much for your reply!



I did the 3 day, I was hoping to get feedback from others that are actually members to see if you learn the strategies or keys so you can do them yourself?



I assume he's teaching some support and resistance keys for entry and targets?



Are you in his program Sharmas? If so can you tell me how it's working out for you?



Thank you so much for taking the time to answer!



You will learn the keys. The 10 months give you plenty of time.


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You get access to Members lounge where all the training videos and charts examples of each key is listed

As a member you get 2 to 3 days of training with live charts but that becomes 5 days a week of training nearly every week

In todayís trades his Key 1 and Key 9 paid me very well and I traded on my own

There is no support or resistance lines as per what other vendors teach you

Each day the CL ES Gold and nearly every market reveal the keys

Think why every market reverses from a particular place or goes to certain levels
If our normal conventional Support and Ressistance line off 240 mins or daily or weekly worked then why people are struggling

Itís nothing new the information is there right in front of you even now on your chart but you must need to learn to read the chart

That has been my biggest learning

My charts always gets marked up for next days trading with Key 1 and Key 5 and then as the market unfolds I mark the charts with Key 9

Then I deploy Key 10 and that is Discipline

Hope this helps

Sharmas






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Hi Sharmas,

Thank you so much for your reply!

I did the 3 day, I was hoping to get feedback from others that are actually members to see if you learn the strategies or keys so you can do them yourself?

I assume he's teaching some support and resistance keys for entry and targets?

Are you in his program Sharmas? If so can you tell me how it's working out for you?

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer!


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I didn't read your journal back then because you changed your bar type and indicator every day so I knew you were still searching for method that fit you. It seems you found it, happy for you.

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You will learn the keys. The 10 months give you plenty of time.


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Thank you so much. One comment mentioned by a few people was that you get stopped out alot with the small stop ( Floor Traders Probe) Do you find that to be the case?

Also, do you think you can trade the system with a small account, 1 or 2 contracts in a trade?

Thank you!

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You get access to Members lounge where all the training videos and charts examples of each key is listed

As a member you get 2 to 3 days of training with live charts but that becomes 5 days a week of training nearly every week

In todayís trades his Key 1 and Key 9 paid me very well and I traded on my own

There is no support or resistance lines as per what other vendors teach you

Each day the CL ES Gold and nearly every market reveal the keys

Think why every market reverses from a particular place or goes to certain levels
If our normal conventional Support and Ressistance line off 240 mins or daily or weekly worked then why people are struggling

Itís nothing new the information is there right in front of you even now on your chart but you must need to learn to read the chart

That has been my biggest learning

My charts always gets marked up for next days trading with Key 1 and Key 5 and then as the market unfolds I mark the charts with Key 9

Then I deploy Key 10 and that is Discipline

Hope this helps

Sharmas

Thank you so much. One comment mentioned by a few people was that you do get stopped out often with the small stop ( Floor Traders Probe) Do you find that to be the case?

Also, do you think you can trade the system with a small account, 1 or 2 contracts in a trade?

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TDRscalper,
You won't find any info showing what the system actually is because there is a nondisclosure agreement. There is a trial you can sign up for and he refers to the Keys. I did write a review, which you can find on this site. I have several cornerstones for my trading, which includes one of the Keys. The most important things I will tell you is that you should NOT try to learn all the Keys until you have mastered the one that makes sense to you the most first, study hard and observe for awhile so you understand the rules and context, which only happens over time, and you should be making trade decisions based on that alone because if you wait for the trading calls, you will be too late in fast markets and if you don't have a full grasp of the method and its limitations, you will be frustrated. With that said, I only use one Key, and it has made a substantial difference in my trading.

Thank you so much.

One comment mentioned by a few people was that you do get stopped out often with the small stop ( Floor Traders Probe) Do you find that to be the case?

Also, do you think you can trade the system with a small account, 1 or 2 contracts in a trade?

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Totally agree as the journey has been difficult and with so many offerings one just jumps and tries everything and anything to get the desired result

So many Vendors who are only interested in your hard earned money but never about making you a better or even a trader

Yes I had to go through a lot but now I am settled to my own kind and yes I do still use my levels as per my journals and then incorporating the 9 Keys

We all know if there is one perfect system out there then that person would never share it Right

With the perfect system the person will trade to make millions isnít it

Sharmas

My ES and CL charts with the levels that i calculate at 18.30 hours New York for my ES,CL,GC markets and then i use my trade plan


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I didn't read your journal back then because you changed your bar type and indicator every day so I knew you were still searching for method that fit you. It seems you found it, happy for you.


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Thank you so much. One comment mentioned by a few people was that you get stopped out alot with the small stop ( Floor Traders Probe) Do you find that to be the case?



Also, do you think you can trade the system with a small account, 1 or 2 contracts in a trade?



Thank you!



I donít use the stops he uses. Iím using some of the keys for my entires. My definition of small may be different than yours.


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Thank you so much for taking the time to write me . I totally understand and would not ask specifics on the system, its only a general idea as to what it is id be interested in, And thank you for explaining how it's working for you.

Is it something unique? And do completely learn to do it on your own without the need to have Ace call it out?

I guess you learn unique support and resistance methods he has?

If your only trading say 2 contracts on ES would it be worth it, as its $3500.

thank you so much again bandtasia, appreciate you!

Like many systems, it may use common tools but the uniqueness is how it is pared down and presented. You may even be using some of the common elements already, but the course may challenge how well you are using them; there are also the elements of discipline, prep, and context and speed. Also, a thorough understanding and mastery is required to avoid those quick stops; my choice was simply to not trade one of the Keys because I, quite frankly, suck at it. You only need to master one Key, although some have, over time, mastered all of them. Yes, you should definitely learn it, mastering one key at a time, so your trades, or at least analysis, is ahead of the calls. You can trade starting with 1 contract.

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