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There is a free trial going on now.

I tried to watch yesterday, but had to mute it

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Yes Ace gets very excited and raises his voice....but wouldn't you when you make 5 ES points day in day out and then 10 points and then 20

Then you compound your account and do the same but with 3 to 5 contracts.

Ace does call the market and levels using his 9 Keys and to be honest who cares about his account size? Who cares about his fill price? Ace always tells the students and free trial members not to worry about a tick or 2.

Personally for me this helps a lot because I don’t have to be perfect. Ace is sharing his method and he demonstrates off the charts every single day …Yes every single day how in fact the keys unfold. This helps me a lot. In the end I’m going to be watching my own platform and that’s all that matters. Ace Teaches right from the beginning how to rely on our own charts not anyone else’s…. he sure does do a fantastic job at demonstrating the keys time after time.

What i have seen in the room during the trial period that everyone is making points and not ticks. The members are willing to share their experience.

As far as the videos go that you say Ace posts? I would suggest going to one of his live three day trials. I am sure you will change your tune after you do that.

He calls the levels and then calls the target well in advance and yet again he uses his Keys to predict measured market moves and he also taught the Floor trader probe.

What i can say as the saying goes "Buy Low and Sell High" and yet 90 percent retail traders Sell low and Buy high and get stopped out.

But there is a method that ACE teaches how to buy Low and how to Sell High..This is a real eye opener and yes works with all markets and time frames...

Give ACE 3 days and he will show you his method for free and who knows 2016 could be the year that changes your trading goals for better.

Sharmas

HI SHARMAS
is acetrades now called kongzana?

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It's two different organisations


ACE and Kongzana are different

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Comments from detailed reviews

I copied some portions of a review from tradingschools.org. You can read the whole detail review at Ace Trades Review - Trading Schools.Org

My question remains: If ACE can teach you his method in less than six months, then why you need to spend close to $10,000 for life time room membership?

Here is tradingschools.org’s summary:
“Ace does not trade. And he admits it. He just talks about how great his system is. And that his system works in all markets, and in all time frames. Ace provides no proof of trading success whatsoever. Ace records raw market footage. Then he records a "live" trading session over market footage. Total nonsense. Charlatan.”

... and some details …
“The Ace Trades trading room offers three items for sale. A “Gold” package that costs $3,500, a Platinum package that costs $5,500, and a Diamond package that costs $9,800. All three packages include the same set of special Ace Indicators. The only difference between the three packages is the allotted amount of time that is included with the Ace Trading Room. The gold package includes 6 months, platinum includes one year, and the diamond includes lifetime access.”

“In all honesty, there is no sense to this man, he reminds me of an out of control sportscaster. One minute he is professing how the “The Bulls are Charging! I told you!” and then the next moment, “TAKE HALF OFF, and NOW YOU NEED TO REVERSE!!!”. It was borderline insane and out of control commentary. But the more and more I listened to Ace, and as the days progressed, I began to see the genius of the marketing. And the truth about this whole Ace Trading marketing scheme is that Ace has learned that excitement is contagious, and excitement sells. And who can deny that most people that attend a trading room are looking for fun and excitement, unfortunately this is not how money is made.”

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HI SHARMAS
is acetrades now called kongzana?

Thanks, forexoil, for your post. My experience with Ace, like yours, is that in his trial sessions, he does seem to call levels somewhat accurately, and at the end of the day, he's made points, not ticks. He does not, however, teach his "method" in the trial days; to learn it, you have to fork over at least $3,500 upfront on the promise that you'll learn the protocols/keys, etc. He calls out the keys during the trial trading session, but unless you've taken the class you don't really know what he's talking about. How he sets his opening bias, how he picks and changes his levels -- that all comes after you've paid the freight. Interestingly, most who have taken the "course" say that you actually learn the methodology in the first month or so, maybe less, and the rest is daily practice under his supposedly watchful eye. So the actual learning, which I'm told is accomplished largely on videos, amounts about $3500 for a month of real info. When the six months is up, you can pay for the room monthly for about the same $300-350 or so that many other rooms charge.

That's ok; lots of guys charge for their courses and methods. It is a little misleading to suggest that you can learn the methodology from watching the trial days; he gives away virtually nothing (except maybe the trader's probe thing, which is relatively new to the trial room). And the "members" in the "room" really just do a lot of rah-rah and are nearly religious in the fervor of their thank you's -- not any real conversation about their experience. To the wary, it may almost sound staged. Then again, I'd be pretty rah-rah with what appear to be consistently strong results. I just wish Ace would be a little more traditional: show us his DOM, his actual trades, his account summaries, a week of real room experience instead of a demonstration -- all the stuff that other guys do to lend credibility.

Moreover, don't make the mistake of thinking that the trial is a live call room. You can't really follow his trades however much he shouts long and shorts and continuations and rings bells and plays music and all that entertainment. It's really not a trading room, but a demonstration. So if that's what turns you on, and you believe the promise of a highly staged bucket of salesmanship, go for it. Like any system, it probably works for a lot of people. For me, I'm way undercapitalized anyway, and while education in trading is critical, I'm just not $3,500 ready. I really don't think Ace is dishonest. I wish he just didn't seem so.

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Thanks, forexoil, for your post. My experience with Ace, like yours, is that o.

That wasn't me. I have no idea about ace and was only wondering about any relationship between Ace and Kongzana - due to Sharmas' recent and similarly positive review of both rooms..

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the ace trail room

i see all this talk about ace and guess what all of you that are talking smack have never even been in for a trail so how can you say this or that about ace i am not a member but i have been in the trade room about six times and every time that is have been in the room i have made money just by taking a trade from the blue line now i do use a volume ladder from nijnatraders so i allways take a trade from the line when the volume ladder is in my favor and allso when the price has moved one tick in my direction and i have never been stoped out with this method before it went to the one point or the take half profit which ace calls i have not took the course only been in the trails, my business will not let me have the time to trade full time , if i could i would take the course. so if you want to talk about ace take the trail first and then talk what you have experienced first hand

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No need to discuss further any of names mentioned in this thread just more time wasting. But it reminds me kf gave out his methods in the name of G. in order to reel in some last 'believers', after losing all their money there was news of his sudden death, the end. ...

this just in, he's back and he just said "give him another chance...he asks for forgiveness".

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he is back...

Corey, my apologies, but I am totally lost about the quote and you comment. Do you mind clarifying for me?

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Corey, my apologies, but I am totally lost about the quote and you comment. Do you mind clarifying for me?

the way the quote works is to click the white triangle next to the quote name to back track to the prior quote then read all surrounding posts to understand context of that post. This is the primary function of why using the quote.

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