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Hi,
I hesitate to ask here about fulcrumtrader system because fulcrum always write here. I would like to know about fulcrumtrader system . Anybody use it and what is impression about the system .

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Hi,
I hesitate to ask here about fulcrumtrader system because fulcrum always write here. I would like to know about fulcrumtrader system . Anybody use it and what is impression about the system .

I am starting to explore the system, but I have spoken to Chris and I can tell you he is a real trader.
At this point I do know how to easily tell. If you consider educators as a good stepping stone, not holy grails, fulcrumtrader would help you in your trading quest. He is a nice guy too.

M

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hI,

Thank you very much for your post. So, only course is sufficient or anything else.

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hI,

Thank you very much for your post. So, only course is sufficient or anything else.

Yes, Other things are required:

1) never tell your neighbor you trade futures. Their opinion will discourage you.
2) Invest in a good computer, and a good trading platform
3) Practice what you are taught in any course daily
4) Read books about trading psychology
5) trade ONLY risk capital
6) Come to this forum daily, and read other guys who are trying to learn
7) Never tell your neighbors you trade future

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Yes, Other things are required:

1) never tell your neighbor you trade futures. Their opinion will discourage you.
2) Invest in a good computer, and a good trading platform
3) Practice what you are taught in any course daily
4) Read books about trading psychology
5) trade ONLY risk capital
6) Come to this forum daily, and read other guys who are trying to learn
7) Never tell your neighbors you trade future

M

My neighbors are cramer fans , thats why I dont tell them Im a trader lol . I see your platform is metatrader so I assume you are exploring forex . A trading course is a good idea and fulcrum seems like a capable trader . Keep in mind that theres a BIG difference between a scalper and a swing trader . Scalping can be very stressful and not necessarily a more profitable or lower risk venture than swinging . Check yourself first and determine if you are one or the other , or both . Learn how to be a good swing trader first and you are then positioned to become a good scalper . Forex is a good place to learn to be a good swing trader because you can easily adjust your leverage and position size while in the learning phase .

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fulcrum thinks out side the box not everybody thinks like him, I didn't (after weeks of trying). So take it slow make sure it fits your style.

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fulcrum thinks out side the box not everybody thinks like him, I didn't (after weeks of trying). So take it slow make sure it fits your style.

What kinds of things does he teach?

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https://gentletrader.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Fulcrum-2010-01-25_0449.png

Here is something from the @GentleTrader blog. Maybe he can chime in.

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Hi,
I hesitate to ask here about fulcrumtrader system because fulcrum always write here. I would like to know about fulcrumtrader system . Anybody use it and what is impression about the system .

the fact that a vendor is a participant on this forum may give us bias, as opposed to those not participating in this forum. so whatever any1 plans, check if you are able to get a trial and see whether it suits whatever u know works for u.

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What kinds of things does he teach?

what big boys aka. market movers do, its his own theory so you can choose to accept it or not.

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what big boys aka. market movers do, its his own theory so you can choose to accept it or not.

cory - i for one value your opinion - so, in your opinion is this guy here trying to sell his product?

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cory - i for one value your opinion - so, in your opinion is this guy here trying to sell his product?

Its a soft sale, I have not received any email since I stopped his trial service. I have read fulcrum/amt4swa/5Pillars for a long time if you just read all his posts you have a roughly idea of what he does without buying anything from him.

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Fulcrumtrader knows what he is talking about and has unique and valuable information to impart. His room is cheap enough that if you attend and ask questions you will get your money's worth.

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I contacted Chris asking about the live trading room and he advised that's available for $99....I can tell you that from watching all his videos on youtube that just sitting in the room and learning from him is worth every penny.....

will join his room soon....

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the fact that a vendor is a participant on this forum may give us bias, as opposed to those not participating in this forum.

never fear any vendor, if the product is not up to par and fails to teach anything new, then those looking and asking for advice should have unhindered advice about the product they are asking about.. plain and simple..

I dont expect vendors to be mods.. and I believe that @BigMike's whole point of ensuring that vendors dont have much influence is to allow those participating on the forum to express their opinions openly and truthfully, yet in a very professional manner without disrespecting the vendors... the day those basic guiding principles change, I am sure to exit this forum.. I dont foresee that changing based on what I have seen from @BigMike.

I have personlly spoken to Chris before, and I have taken his courses as well. The reality is that his method is just that, another method.. which works for him and might also work for others. The other reality is that he basically has shared his method pretty much openly on his webinars and videos, I mean... all it takes is to study what he has published... the other reality is that his stuff is not all that expensive... I mean compared to others, the $700-$1000 I spend on education to learn and understand what he has was not a waste of funds from my part as it allowed me to see volume and inventory from a different perspective.

I did not find any value on attending the vegas trip, it was just not my cup of tea. The videos that I purchased were more than sufficient for me to understand the method, and take what I needed from it.

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anything else.

following Mattz post, I would add the following as well... they are not my rules... meaning, original to me.. so credit goes to whomever created them.. dont recall who.... but I have taken some of the rules and made them my own..

Rule No.1: Always Use a Trading Plan
Rule No.2: Treat Trading Like a Business
Rule No.3: Use Technology to Your Advantage
Rule No.4: Protect Your Trading Capital
Rule No.5: Become a Student of the Markets
Rule No.6: Risk Only What You Can Afford to Lose
Rule No.7: Develop a Trading Methodology Based on Facts
Rule No.8: Always Use a Stop Loss
Rule No.9: Know When to Stop Trading
Rule No.10: Keep Trading in Perspective

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Let me just say a few things in general.

1) I plan to ask Chris to come back and do another webinar. I would only do this if I thought it would be helpful to futures.io (formerly BMT) members. If you attended the last webinar you will see he was not selling his system. The purpose of the webinar was to educate. I think this sends a clear message of what Christopher is about.

2) Not all vendors are evil. Contrary to popular belief, some wish to help others. It has been said that no one would want to give away their edge for free. I disagree, but see point #3 below.

3) I am of the belief that the main advantage to any vendor method is structure. Structure in learning, available structure for Q&A, and ultimately the structure provides accountability which is likely one of the most important and motivating factors.

4) Paying money tends to add some accountability for some people. However, it should be noted that some people believe paying money to a vendor means they should do nothing but sit back and watch their bank account fill up. So I think that if you avoid the scams and get rich quick, holy grail type systems and vendors, then you can learn from just about everyone else. If nothing else, you will learn what not to do -- which is still a valuable lesson.

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I own both his main Cummulative Delta course and his Momentum course-- IMO both are very good . In fact even though I've traded for some five years with increasing success,I'd go as far to say that this net ask.v. bid traded volume thinking has been the 'missing piece of the jigsaw' for me. I've personally found it so useful that I have now transitioned to Investor/RT so I can have the Volume Breakdown tool ( Market Delta and I believe Ninja are alternatives ) .

If your a serious trader the price is, as they say here in the UK, "cheap as chips" --!! Previously I've always majored on TradeStation and own a multitude of specialist TS systems & indicators a few of which I'm currently working out how I can port to I/RT.

Christopher himself is a very polite,self-effacing ,unfailingly helpful chap and always answers my questions by return e-mail. I don't like trading rooms I'd rather fish than be fed ................... so I cannot comment properly on his, although I did visit it twice to just get a feel for his live trading observations --seemed friendly relaxed and valued by the members but not my thing.

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Previously I've always majored on TradeStation and own a multitude of specialist TS systems & indicators a few of which I'm currently working out how I can port to I/RT.

good luck with that piece, RTL is great for simple stuff, but that is what creates the problem.. simple things means one has to create lots of simple/custom components to include into a chart to have what one single indicator could of otherwise have painted.



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I don't like trading rooms I'd rather fish than be fed ................... so I cannot comment properly on his, although I did visit it twice to just get a feel for his live trading observations --seemed friendly relaxed and valued by the members but not my thing.


I concur on this with you, I dont view the rooms as signal generators (though that is how most people seem) ... I rather view them as good realtime tools for analysis of the method... if I can see on my own chart what the person is saying and explaining, or if I can get ahead of the person, then I know that I am learning the subject matter in question...

but overall, I dont care much for chat rooms... not everyone is as focused on them ... and they tend to trail off with non-sense at times.. which drives me

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I am currently in Chris's room and going through his course - I like his trading style and take on the market. I have done the lot, Fibonnacci, MP, etc. I like the supply and demand physics that Chris teaches and it really cements my understanding and he style is easing going and relaxed, which is my style.

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Anybody tried Fulcrum's method using gomiCD?

Only way I know to get the view using zenfire, else have to switch to DTN IQ and Investor/RT to get a working view of cumulative delta.

I think cumulative delta does a great job of identifying divergences.

Anyone actually making money with the system?

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Yes very much so !

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I've seen a lot of Chris's stuff and he has a way of interpreting delta.

Some of his theories do break down in certain markets. One of the main tenets behind his system is that big players enter and exit the market using market orders. This is simply not true.

I'll give an example. At the high of the day you will usually see a lot of offers on the DOM - this is the same on all markets. On the ES you may see 15000 offered but only 10,000 bid. You see a lot of selling (mostly 1 lots) and you also notice that this selling is hitting a fairly small bid but the bid is not really going down. This is a sure indication that a large player is stacking the offer to entice reversal traders but at the same time is buying all he can with an iceberg order on the bid. This is an aggressive play, the aggressor is the buyer and he is buying with market orders. I have seen 20,000 market sell orders go through on the ES without price tickind down more than 2-3 ticks before the buyer stepped on the gas, pushed through the high at which point all the sellers brought to cover and the player sold against that buying. He probably averaged 5-6 ticks.

Now - Fulcrum doesn't (As far as I know) use DOM/T&S and therefore will not be seeing this. He does state emphatically that pros use market orders and that's all they use. Just take that with a pinch of salt.

What is key about this style is that you are using data that is not price. It is a seperate and distinct dimension and as such it will tell you more than any price based study possibly can. It will take a lot of study and a lot of work but to learn about this stuff for less than $1000 is a bargain in my opinion. The only issue for some people will be the 6+ months from learning this to actually benefitting from it.

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I found this FT review, comments are also interesting.

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I found this FT review, comments are also interesting.

Fulcrum Trader Blog for Trading Success: Ray Barros


Quoting 
dom said,in November 30th, 2011 at 4:19 am
I am probably one of the very few people who have seen Chris trade live. No, i dont mean in some virtual trade room where he might say “I went long here and now im just managing this winning trade BLA BLA BLA” but seeing a live account (of my small prop firm). Trust me when I say this, THIS GUY IS A TERRIBLE TRADER. Maybe you will find his education helpful, that might be, but i have seen how he traded like a maniac trading his “accordion”. he was never following his own plan and he really could not at all stick to his own set risk parameters. Things like “maximum contract size, maximum risk per trade, daily loss limits” are things that he just totally ignored and he lost more money faster than any other trader i have ever met and he would have blown out those accounts. Fortunately it was a very easy decision for us to get rid of this guy since he completely violated all risk parameters 3 times out of the first 4 live trading days. And not jsut slightly like f.e. a maximum trade size in the dax of 10 and he traded 12 or so, no if his max size allowed was 10 then you could easily find yourself trading 25-40 contracts…I also have a friend who had an account with him. He started the account with 30k and chris wiped it out in 1 day (no joke)…
I would stay FAR away from that guy.

Dom

P.S.: I have all the documents to back up what i say and in case there is a real argument starting here than i would be willing to let a trusted source like Ray Barros check the files.
Great book by the way Ray!

sounds credible I know his 'accordion' trade but I thought he doesn't have to do it any more.

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I was told about this other thread/post some time ago and it is not accurate - I have never in my life traded for any prop firm so I have no idea where someone came up with that one (and I have never traded the Accordion in any prop group). I traded for a private equity group for about a year, and we had monthly returns of 3.3% to 8.1% in all the months I was there - never ever traded prop. Also, as I have mentioned here before...I am no longer a part of FulcrumTrader since that was taken over completely by the TradersHelpDesk group.

Currently, I trade my own funds and I have been working on a Kitplane project which I have wanted to do for some time. In the couple of years I was running FulcrumTrader, I met and interacted with some really great people - and there were about 3 that I have had disputes with for various reasons (sometimes people tick you off and you just don't want to deal with them). All in all, I am glad I set up FulcrumTrader to demonstrate a method for using Cumulative Delta. In the end, trading is an individual sport so each trader has to ultimately figure out (on their own) how to handle their personal trading - and this of course is everyones challenge.

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Actually the main complaint was about you not providing training as agreed.

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I was told about this other thread/post some time ago and it is not accurate - I have never in my life traded for any prop firm so I have no idea where someone came up with that one (and I have never traded the Accordion in any prop group). I traded for a private equity group for about a year, and we had monthly returns of 3.3% to 8.1% in all the months I was there - never ever traded prop. Also, as I have mentioned here before...I am no longer a part of FulcrumTrader since that was taken over completely by the TradersHelpDesk group.

Currently, I trade my own funds and I have been working on a Kitplane project which I have wanted to do for some time. In the couple of years I was running FulcrumTrader, I met and interacted with some really great people - and there were about 3 that I have had disputes with for various reasons (sometimes people tick you off and you just don't want to deal with them). All in all, I am glad I set up FulcrumTrader to demonstrate a method for using Cumulative Delta. In the end, trading is an individual sport so each trader has to ultimately figure out (on their own) how to handle their personal trading - and this of course is everyones challenge.

Chris, are you sure you want to keep this "discussion" open? So you never traded for a Swiss CTA/Prop Trading Group??
You were not kicked out within a few days because you 1) traded like a maniac, violating all risk parameters 2) not even traded your own setups?
You did not blow out that other retail account of Jake?

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Chris, are you sure you want to keep this "discussion" open? So you never traded for a Swiss CTA/Prop Trading Group??
You were not kicked out within a few days because you 1) traded like a maniac, violating all risk parameters 2) not even traded your own setups?
You did not blow out that other retail account of Jake?

The only "managed futures" group I ever worked with out of the EU, I told them after one night of testing live I would never trade on their platform again. A platform with a third party add-on tool which had several major technical issues, to include the "ghost stop orders" problem that was going on at the time with IB TWS. You can't trade a platform that has stop orders that show on a platform but don't actually trigger if touched. I warned that group to junk that platform as fast as they can and go to XTrader 7 or something different. D_M (dom) with that same group raved about how great "huddy" was as a trader and would not stop gushing over the guy, and my question was, "how in the heck does he use that piece of junk trading platform set up?"

I find it rather odd when a guy that is suppose to be a Swiss Fund Manager is going around on forums bitching about other traders and yet he does not have the sack to manage (trade) the funds himself. When someone tells you your platform is junk and they will not trade on it you should listen. When you can man up and trade real funds like all the other traders on these forums (good and bad...part of the game) then come show us all your results. Your life will never get ahead cheerleading Huddy one day and then later saying how terrible the guy was on forums - that to me is just pathetic. When you MANAGE funds for a firm have the sack to say what happens on "my watch" is my resposibility, and if you don't like what your traders are doing just fire them and move on (since you can't even trade yourself - LOL). I don't see REAL Fund Managers from Chicago on the forums here bitching about what millions their traders lost last week, they deal with their wins/losses and move on.

I have traded for 11 different individuals or groups in my life...lost money for two and made 5 to 6 figure returns for 9 others, so like other traders I have wins and losses. That is how trading works and when you can actually trade yourself and show us a multi-year record of your results that would be nice. If you can't handle taking losses as a Swiss Fund Manager (pretty title) then get out of the game and take up something different. Man up and start trading yourself and quit bitching about others, set up your own fund and after a year or two come back here and show us all what you have got. Show us all what YOU can do!

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I think Swisstrader does great service to futures.io (formerly BMT) community by giving feedback on vendor's real capabilities, not very often we can hear that.
By the way, I don't understand how come FT is not marked as a vendor with his newly established Order flow insiders group.


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I find it rather odd when a guy that is suppose to be a Swiss Fund Manager is going around on forums bitching about other traders and yet he does not have the sack to manage (trade) the funds himself. When someone tells you your platform is junk and they will not trade on it you should listen. When you can man up and trade real funds like all the other traders on these forums (good and bad...part of the game) then come show us all your results. Your life will never get ahead cheerleading Huddy one day and then later saying how terrible the guy was on forums - that to me is just pathetic. When you MANAGE funds for a firm have the sack to say what happens on "my watch" is my resposibility, and if you don't like what your traders are doing just fire them and move on (since you can't even trade yourself - LOL). I don't see REAL Fund Managers from Chicago on the forums here bitching about what millions their traders lost last week, they deal with their wins/losses and move on.

I have traded for 11 different individuals or groups in my life...lost money for two and made 5 to 6 figure returns for 9 others, so like other traders I have wins and losses. That is how trading works and when you can actually trade yourself and show us a multi-year record of your results that would be nice. If you can't handle taking losses as a Swiss Fund Manager (pretty title) then get out of the game and take up something different. Man up and start trading yourself and quit bitching about others, set up your own fund and after a year or two come back here and show us all what you have got. Show us all what YOU can do!


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I think Swisstrader does great service to futures.io (formerly BMT) community by giving feedback on vendor's real capabilities, not very often we can hear that.
By the way, I don't understand how come FT is not marked as a vendor with his newly established Order flow insiders group.

Great advice from dom / swisstrader1 side kick - are you guys a "tag-team" together? LOL. Do you actually trade or just blame others too? Also, get your facts straight since I do not have any newly established group and there is no solicitation for any group on futures.io (formerly BMT). Sorry pal, everything I set up for order flow tracking was set up in 2009 or 2010 and there is not any new groups.

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Also, get your facts straight since I do not have any newly established group

Not exactly true Chris, I received this email the other week so you do have new group.


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From: info <info@FulcrumTrader.com>
Sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 22:38
Subject: Check out the Private OFI Group Website - Also, the UPGRADED Intraday Scalping Entries With Order Flow class starts Monday!


Hello,
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After a review of trader*survey information,*I decided to set up a new course to specifically detail intraday scalp entries.* For most retail traders they seem to*be looking for simplistic intraday scalping methods, and that is actually not a bad idea in my opinion.* Mastering the ability to target small intraday moves, with a minimum 2:1 Reward to Risk*based entry, is a smart initial approach.* If a retail trader can build initial success from this capability they can*branch out into other longer term trading styles (as they are dynamically building their account size).* To address this subject, I have designed*a brand new*live 4 day special training*course to target a wide range of scalping entries.* Many of the scalp trade entries I will be presenting at the live event are geared to the order flow based trader, but there will be some new price action only*based*entries too.* Here is a listing of some of the key subjects that will be covered at the live event;

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Also, those who attend the 4 day special live event will be set up with membership to the Order Flow Insiders Group*(private website with forum and mini-courses video page).* This is the same private website where I will be downloading and adding the*special event videos once produced (so you can review later at your convenience).* Once a member of the OFI Group*make sure you take a look at the new Small Account Trader*mini-course within the videos section - where I take a $1500 account to over $15,000 in gains in under a month (as shown in all the brokerage statements).* I go over the day to day trades and brokerage statement review to show what is possible with even a small account starting point.* Many traders have expressed a lot of*exceptional feedback from this mini-course so don't miss it.**Added BONUS --->**I also have a 5 day Cumulative Delta Volume*Trading mini-course that was recorded and*is now uploaded to the OFI Group*video page - as a new member of the OFI Group*you will have full access to this mini-course.
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This special event*will be set in an interactive format from 08:30 am to 11:00 am central time each day so you can ask questions during the sessions (GoToWebinar chatroom).* I will be presenting excellent information*that many of you have never seen before, and I like interaction to stimulate the presentation of ideas! *If you are interested in securing your place at this limited space event just let me know right away by email. *Once I receive your special event request email, I will send out a paypal invoice for the ******* special event fee (this includes*your OFI Group*membership).* If you have any additional questions just let me know at: info@FulcrumTrader.com
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Chris, I do not know how you have your entities and groups legally set up, but the question is: do you make any money by selling trading-related products or services that anyone here could purchase? If so, you are a vendor, and should be labeled as such. Perhaps by some letter of the law you are not technically a vendor, but in principle you are, and everyone knows you are, so why do you resist labeling yourself as such?

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As I said before, the OFI Group was set up in the past back in 2010 so it is nothing new and that was my point. Also, no I do not make money off that site any longer but I have added new content to the site and will continue to do so occasionally.

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Chris, I do not know how you have your entities and groups legally set up, but the question is: do you make any money by selling trading-related products or services that anyone here could purchase? If so, you are a vendor, and should be labeled as such. Perhaps by some letter of the law you are not technically a vendor, but in principle you are, and everyone knows you are, so why do you resist labeling yourself as such?

I don't care if I am labeled as a vendor or not...obviously if anyone who sold trading related products at some point will always be known for that going forward. Each trader can decide on their own if they want to use the method or tools the vendors present.

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How come you are not making money from that site when you're are selling course for 250$?


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As I said before, the OFI Group was set up in the past back in 2010 so it is nothing new and that was my point. Also, no I do not make money off that site any longer but I have added new content to the site and will continue to do so occasionally.


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How come you are not making money from that site when you're are selling course for 250$?

As I have already stated, I currently only add content to the very small membership site with private access. I let those who run the site/server and run website admin handle any revenue generated for their time and cost of maintaining the site. I don't expect those running a site and paying for their time/expenses of running the site to do it for free.

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I find it interesting that one time you say you never traded for a prop firm/managed futures etc. and then suddenly you confirm it. By the way, Switzerland is not part of the EU ;-)!
Ohhh, the platform was the reason that you lost money faster than anyone else we have ever seen?! And it was also the platform that made you average down everytime the market hit a new low? The platform moved the stops and instead of taking a stop you added some more? Now I understand the problem: It was not you, it was the platform LOL.
So when you blew up JXXXs account which was at Velocity, what happend there? Also the platform?
Dude nobody ever said that a trader doesnt take losses but have you ever heard about money & risk management? How good was yours when you blew up (losing ALL) his account?
You find it odd that I "bitch around in forums"?? Man, check out the date. This is about 3 years ago when you traded for us and we fired you after about one week because of your maniac trading! There was not one single post from me until I say Ray Barros compain about you for not fullfilling your agreement with him about a year ago. When I read about trading vendors like you (I dont care if you are maybe not selling something now, but im sure you will have a "comeback") who really can not trade themself but sell others their "education" it makes me feel like throwing up... How can people like you live with yourself?
And dont worry about me, because I never sold any education in trading or anyhting like that so I could be the worst trader on the planet (ummm ooops that spot is already taken ) it wouldnt matter! You are the one that is acting like that super duper trader so why dont you post a live trading statement of your account showing that at least now you are profitable?
I dont think anyone is interested in seeing my trading statement which currently shows a 10% drawdown...
Anyway, I wish you well Chris. Hopefully you will change your view on life and that is not about ripping off others (at least I think Ray Barros can afford the loss with you) but helping others... Maybe you have already started to change by not selling trading stuff anymore, I certainly hope so! Let the trading education be handled by real traders like FT71, BigMike and others (isnt it interesting those people dont charge anything for their help?)

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Just my opinion about the posting here.

I think it is fair with straight forward questions and opinions regarding ethics and so on on the forum, but I think parts of this discussion has gone past that and into what we in Norway call "drittkasting", meaning throwing dirt.

Arrogance and dirt throwing is not good energy for the forum, and I would expect from other members to not condone such no matter what level of frustration, if that is.

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Partially agree with you, but I've never seen vendor exposed like this, at least in this forum, IMO great value to beginners searching for the vendor in the future.



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Just my opinion about the posting here.

I think it is fair with straight forward questions and opinions regarding ethics on the forum, but I think parts of this discussion has gone past that and into what we in Norway call "drittkasting", meaning throwing dirt.

Arrogance and dirt throwing is not good energy for the forum, and I would expect from other members to not condone such no matter what level of frustration, if that is.

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Swisstrader it is really amazing to see you the guy who did nothing but praise Huddy to me going on and on trying to blame others. Yes I did tell you your platform/frontend was not functioning as needed (I told you in my saved camtasia recordings it was "junk") during the known and documented problems with the brokers platform. As a Swiss/EU/Europe fund manager it looks like you were not able to trade and your life is now about a negative attitude and the blame game. And that is darn right, I have never traded in a Prop Shop so get a life and stop trying to slander people online like a coward. If your pissed I told you your platform is junk then deal with it!

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Partially agree with you, but I've never seen vendor exposed like this, at least in this forum, IMO great value to beginners searching for the vendor in the future.

The only thing exposed is that you are a puppet for your pal Swisstrader.

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i'd love to see that saved camtasia recording

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i'd love to see that saved camtasia recording

Yes indeed - swisstrader knows exactly what I told him about their junk platform.

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why not upload it then?

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why not upload it then?

That is always my option - yes.

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Geez, this thread has just become a pissing contest between FulcrumTrader and SwissTrader. Ugly.

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Thank you Big Mike for nipping this in the bud. The thread was getting useless until you stepped in. That is why I like this forum 1,000 times better than EliteTrader.

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Thank you Big Mike for nipping this in the bud. The thread was getting useless until you stepped in. That is why I like this forum 1,000 times better than EliteTrader.

I forgot to make a post.

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The Fulcrumtrader videos are still advertised for sale on the Fulcrumtrader web site, but their email gets bounced. And I don't find them on Gail Mercer's web site. Are these videos still being sold?

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The Fulcrumtrader videos are still advertised for sale on the Fulcrumtrader web site, but their email gets bounced. And I don't find them on Gail Mercer's web site. Are these videos still being sold?

havn't since fulcrum but if you interest in his style check out the outfit called orderflowedge

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The Fulcrumtrader videos are still advertised for sale on the Fulcrumtrader web site, but their email gets bounced. And I don't find them on Gail Mercer's web site. Are these videos still being sold?

Chris seems to be using this new site now MLR | Daily Live Market Reports

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Any idea where I can find the fulcrumtrader videos? Anyone have their copies for sale? And where would I advertise them as "wanted"?

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Any idea where I can find the fulcrumtrader videos? Anyone have their copies for sale? And where would I advertise them as "wanted"?

Bob, have you tried contacting Chris? Last email addy I have for him is info@FulcrumTrader.com
He does have a new website, I have no idea if he is combining his past websites with this one or not. I put a link for it 2 posts ago.

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Bob, have you tried contacting Chris? Last email addy I have for him is info@FulcrumTrader.com
He does have a new website, I have no idea if he is combining his past websites with this one or not. I put a link for it 2 posts ago.

I don't think that MLR website is even fully functional any longer but you should be able to find Chris over at TrendFollowingTrades.com

Happy Trading...

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I am starting to explore the system, but I have spoken to Chris and I can tell you he is a real trader.
At this point I do know how to easily tell. If you consider educators as a good stepping stone, not holy grails, fulcrumtrader would help you in your trading quest. He is a nice guy too.

M

PS. Finch Ave West...I assume you are a TO guy...awesome city...way too cold in the winter LOL


Hi Matt,

Do you still recommend the Cumulative Delta course from Fulcrum Trader?

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Tom

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Hi Matt,

Do you still recommend the Cumulative Delta course from Fulcrum Trader?

Thanks,
Tom

If you ask me if it's an interesting concept, yes it is.
If you are asking me whether it will make you a successful trader, sorry, I have no idea.

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If you ask me if it's an interesting concept, yes it is.
If you are asking me whether it will make you a successful trader, sorry, I have no idea.

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Thanks Matt, but I don't recall asking you if it would make me a successful trader. That would be a rather silly question to ask anyone.

Since you're the one who mentioned you were starting to "explore the system", I was simply asking if you still thought Fulcrum Trader was a reputable company and their Cumulative Delta course worth the $700.

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Thanks Matt, but I don't recall asking you if it would make me a successful trader. That would be a rather silly question to ask anyone.

Since you're the one who mentioned you were starting to "explore the system", I was simply asking if you still thought Fulcrum Trader was a reputable company and their Cumulative Delta course worth the $700.

You'll be surprised how many people have a library of courses thinking that the "next thing" is one that would lead to their success.

I am not trying to be vague, but I am not sure how to attach a monetary value to a course whether it is worth it or not.
When I said "explore the system", I wanted to dig into micro-analysis of the cumulative delta, volume, and market price action. I had the curiosity to understand what my customers are seeking as day traders and scalpers. Nowadays, I find that very few have the strength to do this microanalysis and apply risk management to it. So just to get to the bottom line, and since you have a realistic approach, my suggestion is always to do a due diligence of the course offered and see whether the content offered is within your interest and/or want to analyze such concepts. You need to find your strengths as an analyzer before you approach the markets or any type of education.

Since you are an Elite member, look through the content in the search box. You may find that some have added very serious content and this may serve as a foundation first to anything you are about to take.

I hope this helps you.

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 tommartin321 
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You'll be surprised how many people have a library of courses thinking that the "next thing" is one that would lead to their success.

I am not trying to be vague, but I am not sure how to attach a monetary value to a course whether it is worth it or not.
When I said "explore the system", I wanted to dig into micro-analysis of the cumulative delta, volume, and market price action. I had the curiosity to understand what my customers are seeking as day traders and scalpers. Nowadays, I find that very few have the strength to do this microanalysis and apply risk management to it. So just to get to the bottom line, and since you have a realistic approach, my suggestion is always to do a due diligence of the course offered and see whether the content offered is within your interest and/or want to analyze such concepts. You need to find your strengths as an analyzer before you approach the markets or any type of education.

Since you are an Elite member, look through the content in the search box. You may find that some have added very serious content and this may serve as a foundation first to anything you are about to take.

I hope this helps you.

Thanks,
Matt Zimberg
Optimus Futures

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Understood. Thanks Matt.

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 dk27 
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Don't waste your time and money, the concept doesn't work even remotely. Chris himself or other moderators couldn't demonstrate it's viability in the room, then Chris found perfect solution, he had "profitable" position already from pre-market and would spent all the time talking how euro goes up, oil down and "inventories being liquidated".



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Hi Matt,

Do you still recommend the Cumulative Delta course from Fulcrum Trader?

Thanks,
Tom


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 f1p0pt10ns 
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Don't waste your time and money, the concept doesn't work even remotely.

Two years late to this party but idk if I'd say it doesn't work even remotely. I had been experimenting with a similar method for about 4 months before I saw the webinar he has on F.IO - maybe I am using it differently and that is why I have found some success. Maybe I have just been outperforming long term expectancy and at some point will have a proper correction.

As of today, I have had success using something similar.

f1p



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