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"Hey, Forget the $1,000 . Forget $500. Would $200 a night make a difference?. If I said you could make $200 a night, after work, $4,000 each month, would that make a difference to your lifestyle?
(Remember, Melanie made $200 in 10 minutes of trading!)"

This kind of stuff annoys the crap out of me.

OK - so Melanie made $200 in 10 minutes. Did Melanie just switch the PC on, look at the markets, enter a trade, win $200 and switch it off again?

Nope. Chances are Melanie spent at least an hour at the screen to make the trade.

WTF is this anyway? Speed trading?

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I cant believe I stumbled on this OFA thread.

Amazing innit?

Just after stumbling on the OFA thread on T2W, too...

Just kidding...

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.. "trade tracker" technology which is what looks like a slidescale that is tracking buying and selling flows AFTER you are in the trade. ...!

I activate it when I THINK I have a trade.

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I activate it when I THINK I have a trade.


Hi Cory,

Does that mean you too use the OFA trade tracking system? Can you comment on your experience with this company and or its tools, etc.

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Hi Cory,

Does that mean you too use the OFA trade tracking system? Can you comment on your experience with this company and or its tools, etc.

Regards

here we also have have software to track bid/ask at the time you turn it on
https://futures.io/elite-circle/7520-delta-insight-prometheus-17.html#post93383

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Init,
it would sure be nice to hear how you use ofa software, here how you are doing it with it, etc.
i have looked at ofa's utube videos but have not done the free tour of ofa's room.


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I cant believe I stumbled on this OFA thread.
I just finished a 2 month training with them. Its funny to hear the wide range of views about his technology. I can tell you that after 19 years of position and swing trading, the last year or so, I have decided to be a full time trader. Now i'm in the process of getting my plan together for daytrading around my swing and core positions. With daytrading, I knew I wanted to start at the meat of price action. I chose OFA, It was $2500 for the video library and live trading room for 2 months.(which I just finished)
then its $2500 for the OFA pro package software
Then its $2500 for a few more options and his "trade tracker" technology which is what looks like a slidescale that is tracking buying and selling flows AFTER you are in the trade. The algo parameters identify qualified momentum shifts and automatically takes you out. Nobody in the room trades without it. (for exits only)
You can adjust the parameters in more volitile markets or just click it off.
His volume cluster charts are designed with the same momentum shifts which makes a new bar on every shift. So his charts look nothing like i've ever seen. You see all price action for that bar in the form of one directional monentum segment. I'ts weired but cool. I was still trading my 15sec and 2min charts while using his posted traderoom chart for my entries. This is no lie, Combining orderflow trading with my swing style has been the majic stick for me.
I have not bought the software yet. Thats why its funny I found this because I'm trying see if there is anything similar here. So far my head is spinning with the cool ways you all work together building stuff.
I can say that OFA is pretty expensive but is in no way, a scam
As with any software, If you aren't consistant with your rules and cut losses, no software will help
It will take me a month to look at all the stuff thats here. I'm excited!


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Init, they are basically using market profile or just using a different name for it, but it all boils down to the same process. Yes that is a lot of money for software, and you should really look around at other market profile (buyers & sellers volume) like a company called market delta. But the bottom line is that it all happens at S & R areas. The cost for Market Delta is a monthly fee which is a fraction of what your paying.





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I cant believe I stumbled on this OFA thread.
I just finished a 2 month training with them. Its funny to hear the wide range of views about his technology. I can tell you that after 19 years of position and swing trading, the last year or so, I have decided to be a full time trader. Now i'm in the process of getting my plan together for daytrading around my swing and core positions. With daytrading, I knew I wanted to start at the meat of price action. I chose OFA, It was $2500 for the video library and live trading room for 2 months.(which I just finished)
then its $2500 for the OFA pro package software
Then its $2500 for a few more options and his "trade tracker" technology which is what looks like a slidescale that is tracking buying and selling flows AFTER you are in the trade. The algo parameters identify qualified momentum shifts and automatically takes you out. Nobody in the room trades without it. (for exits only)
You can adjust the parameters in more volitile markets or just click it off.
His volume cluster charts are designed with the same momentum shifts which makes a new bar on every shift. So his charts look nothing like i've ever seen. You see all price action for that bar in the form of one directional monentum segment. I'ts weired but cool. I was still trading my 15sec and 2min charts while using his posted traderoom chart for my entries. This is no lie, Combining orderflow trading with my swing style has been the majic stick for me.
I have not bought the software yet. Thats why its funny I found this because I'm trying see if there is anything similar here. So far my head is spinning with the cool ways you all work together building stuff.
I can say that OFA is pretty expensive but is in no way, a scam
As with any software, If you aren't consistant with your rules and cut losses, no software will help
It will take me a month to look at all the stuff thats here. I'm excited!


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Init,
it would sure be nice to hear how you use ofa software, here how you are doing it with it, etc.
i have looked at ofa's utube videos but have not done the free tour of ofa's room.

Well, The training videos mainly woke me up to the use of stop runs and how to use them to your advantage. I always thought I had a good overall system. But my big problem about half the time was getting shook out. Once I knew the meaning behind some false breakouts, I would incorporate them into range breakouts in LOW energy ranges. I dont have the software yet, so I would look at his vol cluster charts in the trade room "for example" when we would breakdown from a range and wait for the retracement, the guys in the room knew to the tick where they wanted to enter which was just in front of the cluster (if the cluster qualified) because if the cluster was violated with big prints, then you would be out. (false break) showing that the buyers were aggressive to go across that line. It didnt work all the time, but the important thing I learned was that now I had a Logical defined line in the sand so now I could trade larger because my risk was smaller. The main thing was to look for clusters of clusters on one side of the range and then as it moves away, you know to look for more of a slingshot at about 6-8 ticks from those areas.
Right now I am switching over from zen-fire to IQfeed and I'm trying to use IB's T&S (that i'm not used to) and am down $500 two days in a row. I have to get set up soon with something before I do anymore daytrading.
hope that helps a little

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Init, they are basically using market profile or just using a different name for it, but it all boils down to the same process. Yes that is a lot of money for software, and you should really look around at other market profile (buyers & sellers volume) like a company called market delta. But the bottom line is that it all happens at S & R areas. The cost for Market Delta is a monthly fee which is a fraction of what your paying.

They dont use market profile, they use vol profile, which is about the same except more important. Vol to me is more important than time.
If I can put it in perspective. They use vol profile is just used as a rough idea to s/r levels, as with any level. Another thing they do that made alot of sense to me was that you can plot all the key levels you want with any metric, Then you let price find it own s/r confirmed by vol. and if your metric lined up thats great(more confidence).
But if it dont, They look around to see why that level is holding. Then your able to find out what the market sees as valuable.
I hate learning anything new when it come to software. I have my list of everything that I want to see on the screens and it will prob take me about 4 months to find the right places to pull it from. But I put it off everyday, now its costing me.
thanks

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Right now I am switching over from zen-fire to IQfeed and I'm trying to use IB's T&S (that i'm not used to) and am down $500 two days in a row. I have to get set up soon with something before I do anymore daytrading.
hope that helps a little

FWIW,
You may not be aware that IB data is not the same as IQ or ZenFire data.

The data is sent in packets and is much different than ZenFire.
I use both and when using IB data on my charts, the moving averages and most other indicators perform differently and must be modified to give similar results to Zenfire.

Although the end of day data matches the Zenfire and other data sources, in realtime it can be a real issue since most indicators plot on the T&S data and IB's is not a reliable source for that without modification of the settings.


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