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i have all there software and training..... orderflow is helpful if you can trade and are profitable.... if not it will be more problems than it is worth.... you will be looking at to small of timeframes... you have to know where to place the trades first and the wright direction... orderflow my improve your entry and winning % some what.... but it will not be the missing link.. they know what they are doing at ofa.... but it is not cheep or easy ... no short learning curve..... if you can not trade and are not profitable.... you will not be happy

Forgiven,

Well, of course you're right. And yet I find myself being able to say that about just about anything but especially about trading. Take baseball, for example. If you don't know how to handle fast line drive grounders right at you, it's possible you shouldn't be a short stop and no million dollar glove or really comfortable cleats are going to help you. You DO have to know how to play baseball before any of the better equipment is going to make a difference to your game. But don't feel so badly. Trading is a demanding game and challenging in every respect that I can think of. It is to me, anyway. OFA tools give me an edge I've not found anywhere else, however. They take practice and repetition but all I can tell you is the work is worth it.

Kindest Regards and best of luck to you!

John Sprowl

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It is not really the topic of this thread, but just in case you did not know, Sierra Chart has pullback bar included in its numbers bars.

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@hadamkov

please define "pullback bar" as you are referring to it, and its significance?

in other words, does this signal, on the chart interval a reversal worthy of risking a trade, or simply another "look up and take note" event on the charts, but not worthy of risking a trade?

often times, we use the same terminology, but mean completely different things by the same terms

when in trading, clarification is warranted, especially since we rely on our charts to engage in risk taking operations

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Forgiven,

Well, of course you're right. And yet I find myself being able to say that about just about anything but especially about trading. Take baseball, for example. If you don't know how to handle fast line drive grounders right at you, it's possible you shouldn't be a short stop and no million dollar glove or really comfortable cleats are going to help you. You DO have to know how to play baseball before any of the better equipment is going to make a difference to your game. But don't feel so badly. Trading is a demanding game and challenging in every respect that I can think of. It is to me, anyway. OFA tools give me an edge I've not found anywhere else, however. They take practice and repetition but all I can tell you is the work is worth it.

Kindest Regards and best of luck to you!

John Sprowl

i know how to trade , ofa has good tools and training...the have helped me... the point i was trying to make was reading orderflow will be counter productive ...if you do not know what direction to place the trade.... (trend I.D.) or key references points that are likely reversonal points...( a bracketed market.).the likley points where your trade may stop along the way ..(trade management).... ofa tools will not help that much on the bigger picture ... after that stuff is mastered then it is time for orderflow school and ofa is a good school...


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@zohar
@hadamkov

please define "pullback bar" as you are referring to it, and its significance?

in other words, does this signal, on the chart interval a reversal worthy of risking a trade, or simply another "look up and take note" event on the charts, but not worthy of risking a trade?

often times, we use the same terminology, but mean completely different things by the same terms

when in trading, clarification is warranted, especially since we rely on our charts to engage in risk taking operations

@kronie

Thanks, I meant this.
Numbers Bars - Sierra Chart

I do not trade off it and am not following it. Just pointed out to @zohar that SierraChart has a feature called pullback bar.

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i know how to trade , ofa has good tools and training...the have helped me... the point i was trying to make was reading orderflow will be counter productive ...if you do not know what direction to place the trade.... (trend I.D.) or key references points that are likely reversonal points...( a bracketed market.).the likley points where your trade may stop along the way ..(trade management).... ofa tools will not help that much on the bigger picture ... after that stuff is mastered then it is time for orderflow school and ofa is a good school...are you not the guy sell there newest 1000.00 volume profile course ???? lets get that out in the sun-shine

Agree with you. So that you know, I am not an OFA instructor nor the individual to whom you referred in your note back to me. I've merely been an OFA client for a little more than a year. I have found the tools most useful both in getting into good trades that tend to pay me and in staying out of bad trades that tend to pay someone else. Yet I would agree with you: if someone is at the level of trader development where recognizing trend direction is still a question, then getting into order flow of any kind might be getting the cart in front of the horse.

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ofa - works for me . tx...

If you carefully read my previous post, I said: '' it's to be used with your other indicators that work for you'''....
Agreed: OFA is not the holy grail.

Just study it and you will see how decision points work in conjunction with OFA bars.
I use only leading indicators , not past trend indicators ! Keep that in mind.

OFA - is not expensive, how many trades did you make when you lost - and how much did that cost?

Be honest with yourself.
You'll be a better trader then.
Cheers,
Greg
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Agree with you. So that you know, I am not an OFA instructor nor the individual to whom you referred in your note back to me. I've merely been an OFA client for a little more than a year. I have found the tools most useful both in getting into good trades that tend to pay me and in staying out of bad trades that tend to pay someone else. Yet I would agree with you: if someone is at the level of trader development where recognizing trend direction is still a question, then getting into order flow of any kind might be getting the cart in front of the horse.

sorry for the insult... i deleted the incorrect infomoration you referenced from my post... the tools are useful... i use them every day too.. my post was for strugling traders that may think ... orderflow by its self will solve the problems they are having...... that all.. go.... GO O.F.A. we are both on the same page know

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Hi all,

sorry to post this again, but I am finally really quitting trading now, and I have an OFA/Ninja Professional with VCA Module license (lifetime) for sale.
Please pm me if you are interested and also tell me, how much you would be willing to pay. Paypal and bank transfer preferred.
Sorry to everybody who contacted my a year ago and who did not get any response, I am very sorry for the inconvenience. A fast response now is guaranteed!!

Many greetings,
Oliver

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Hi all,

sorry to post this again, but I am finally really quitting trading now, and I have an OFA/Ninja Professional with VCA Module license (lifetime) for sale.
Please pm me if you are interested and also tell me, how much you would be willing to pay. Paypal and bank transfer preferred.
Sorry to everybody who contacted my a year ago and who did not get any response, I am very sorry for the inconvenience. A fast response now is guaranteed!!

Many greetings,
Oliver

Hi Oliver.....how do you rate OFA....did you made good money with that...as they claim you would ? ???

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Hey Billsingh,

I rate OFA very high....BUT..... you have to invest A LOT of time to thoroughly understand what is going on. I did the bootcamp (5 days) some years ago and was overwhelmed by all the information. You can clearly see live what is going on, no lagging indicators here, so you really have an edge.
But now for the other question: Did I make good money. No! But the reason was that trading was only a part time hobby of me, I had a very small trading account (6k) and spent around 1 hour per day on 1-3 days per week, sometimes even less. Also I was "toying" around with other systems, just for the fun of it. Would I have been more focused, would have spent more time learning in the trading rooms I am sure I would have been profitable.
So that is also my advice: If you start out with OFA be prepared to spend at least 3 months for learning and sim trading. OFA has a lot of learning resources, so you wont have any problems here

Many greetings,
Oliver

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