The question is legitimate and curiosity is understandable, but the real question is, why does it matter?

The point of @nguyen74's and @erwinbeckers' and @sharmas's posts is that it doesn't make any difference. These gee-whiz systems are a dime a dozen, and anyone can put up some charts that look really impressive, at selected times and in hindsight, and then happily sell you very ordinary indicators and, in this case, bar types too.

Trying to duplicate their results is a deep waste of time. Once someone had their charts exactly the same, does anyone think it will make any difference? Why?

Gimmicky things like these might actually work, for all I know, for the right person, who probably could use many other things equally well -- which is fortunate, because there are many other chart layouts that are pretty much like this, for all intents and purposes.

Don't spend time and money on things that are free, and don't try duplicating any vendor's versions either. Try to learn something about how the market acts, and how to trade it, and don't confuse that with these kinds of easy non-solutions.

Also, it is always a good idea for a trader to understand why they make decisions as they do, and deal with their personal reactions to the market. If a person's trading needs improving, it is just not a good idea to look for any different chart type or a new indicator, or anything else, to solve what is not a chart or indicator problem as much as a personal one, if that's what it is. Almost any technical thing on a chart will work better if you do. And almost nothing on your chart is really going to be that unique.

If you're not sure what to do, keep it very, very simple. Involved or fancy methods will not do you a better job than objective observation of markets and your own good judgment and self-control.

Bob.

Bob,

It matters because I demoed his system for 3 days. They are offering demos now. I really liked my results with it. I was profitable all 3 days. But what he is charging for it is insane. Lease option of $2500 a year or 5k lifetime. His special deal for the lifetime was about $2800 but I can't afford that. I tried this on the 10/4 NinzaRenko setting. His bar is much bigger than that when I compared the Ninzarenko to his charts. A 20/20 Ninzarenko with Hieken Ashi was close but not exact. His software runs on a tape speed of 30. That's the only setting you can see. The VOL Supreme version of the Triggerlines basically is cut in half and the tape speed is run at 21. I do agree that the Triggerlines have nothing to do with volume but EMAs. It is simple and I believe it works or at least it did for me in the 3 days I tried it

Good answer. Basically, use anything that works. I don't think this is special enough to pay much for it, or anything, really, but things that work for you are good when you find them. Keep them.

I think there will be other similar options that can also work for you, possibly with some fiddling with the settings and some experimentation.

And, what's a tape speed?

Bob.

Good answer. Basically, use anything that works. I don't think this is special enough to pay much for it, or anything, really, but things that work for you are good when you find them. Keep them.

I think there will be other similar options that can also work for you, possibly with some fiddling with the settings and some experimentation.

And, what's a tape speed?

Bob.

Good answer. Basically, use anything that works. I don't think this is special enough to pay much for it, or anything, really, but things that work for you are good when you find them. Keep them.

I think there will be other similar options that can also work for you, possibly with some fiddling with the settings and some experimentation.

And, what's a tape speed?

Bob.

After testing some bars it most definitely is a Unirenko with Hieken Ashi applied. But figuring out the settings is still not quite there. I think this is close. Tape Speed is what makes the bar bigger or smaller on his programming portal. This is the open Friday. Knowing what kind of Market condition with it is essential. But the general idea is to take the 1st couple pullbacks in a new trend and avoid the chop. Can you think of anything else one might do to improve it? Also is Nguyen 74 still posting here? I sent him a direct message but haven't got anything back.

Has anyone been able to duplicate the TBars? Are they some sort of Renko - Heiken Ashi hybrid ?

Thanks

Hey guys and gals! To be honest, I don't remember and as far as I am concerned, I pretty much have the same sentiment as @bobwest. All these indicators work sometimes and other times, they don't. The problem is you won't know when they will work and when they don't. If you do, you don't need this stuff.