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 matzero 
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Hi

Does anybody have live trading experience with Matt 'PAX' Kenah and his trading room?

I know this guy is very reputable former CME pit trader not another fake youtube furu

But the question is does he share his knowledge in any usable form?

I've been in room created by former prop trader, but I found that knowledge and trading skills does not always guarantee teaching skills.

And I'm not the guy to blindly follow 'now press the green button' like instructions. I'm just looking to pick some method that gives statistical edge and build around it my own way of trading

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Hi

Does anybody have live trading experience with Matt 'PAX' Kenah and his trading room?

I know this guy is very reputable former CME pit trader not another fake youtube furu

But the question is does he share his knowledge in any usable form?

I've been in room created by former prop trader, but I found that knowledge and trading skills does not always guarantee teaching skills.

And I'm not the guy to blindly follow 'now press the green button' like instructions. I'm just looking to pick some method that gives statistical edge and build around it my own way of trading

no, but i have spend some time with 3 of these veteran 30 year floor traders . will you learn more than you know now about day trading ? yes will you learn more on how markets work than you know now ? yes can you learn how to day trade and be green in the next 12 months ? not likely does he day trade daily and make his living day trading ? not likely he may make money in the markets but not day trading . he lost his edge when he left the floor. that has been my experience.

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no, but i have spend some time with 3 of these veteran 30 year floor traders . will you learn more than you know now about day trading ? yes will you learn more on how markets work than you know now ? yes can you learn how to day trade and be green in the next 12 months ? not likely does he day trade daily and make his living day trading ? not likely he may make money in the markets but not day trading . he lost his edge when he left the floor. that has been my experience.

For sure some of pit traders lost their edge and ended their careers

I was also very skeptical until I found some guys that show their actual trades, good one and bad ones, sharing real time entries and posting their P&L every single day. You can copy their entries and make money. Popular thesis that trading rooms are ran only by traders that failed is busted. You can find some profitable traders that want to share their skills with others. Some of them even do this for free. That's very rare, but happens.

Unfortunately it does not guarantee your independence. I don't want to just sit and wait for entry done bo other trader using method/process that I don't fully understand. Even if I make money it's not much constructive.

So I'm looking for someone that has a profitable method that I can validate myself (first criteria where 99,9% trading rooms will fail) and will provide his knowledge in a way that followers can actually learn to be independent and build their own process based on a proven method

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This is exactly what the PAX Group does except they use a 30 second opening range. It's not a system per se, more like a method whereby they apply context to the market. Their levels are really good though. I only used them for crude oil so I can't comment on the rest of the markets. PAX has a 3 day trial so give them a shot. They have a very strong focus on the psychology side of trading.

https://www.dapcapitalpartners.com/learn-more

I think DAP Capital Partners is more or less the same. I know Jack was mentored by PAX and it seems he started DAP Capital. I recommend them.

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no, but i have spend some time with 3 of these veteran 30 year floor traders . will you learn more than you know now about day trading ? yes will you learn more on how markets work than you know now ? yes can you learn how to day trade and be green in the next 12 months ? not likely does he day trade daily and make his living day trading ? not likely he may make money in the markets but not day trading . he lost his edge when he left the floor. that has been my experience.

Would you mind elaborating more on your experience with the veteran floor traders? One thing I've been curious about is how the nature of trading has evolved over the years, especially with electronic trading. I've heard similar cases where some floor traders were unable to cross over to contemporary trading and I'm wondering what they were doing back then that didn't carry over to today. Thanks!

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floor traders are better at trading the opening range , fading or not fading gaps. trading around braking news . on the floor they some times had knowledge of the orderbook of traders that moved huge orders . when the floor traders that moved huge orders for other people were buying or selling they were looking them in the face. they were making the market . now an algo is making the market. the bigger orders are mask . .

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