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Orderflow ES chat rooms

  #41 (permalink)
New York, USA
 
Trading Experience: Advanced
Platform: Sierra Chart
Favorite Futures: RTY, ES, YM, NQ, CL, NG, GC, HG
 
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phantomtrader View Post
FT71 has been around for a long time. He doesn't charge much. He likes to talk to people and interface with other traders. Nothing wrong with that. I think he shares his methodology freely. I've never attended his trading room but if the guy was a scam artist, he wouldn't be around as long as he has. He has a good reputation and that's what counts.

I second that. FT71 is not making money off the membership fee. His business model is entirely different. He was an owner of a Prop firm before and currently setting up a community of disciplined traders that will generate even more business for him and his firm. Morad is GOOD person and does a lot of good for education of people FOR FREE.


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  #42 (permalink)
dublin , ireland
 
Trading Experience: None
Platform: Ninjatrader
Favorite Futures: ES
 
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Cant be that good if he charges 99.00

Or he or she is an idiot.

Think about it. 3,000 trading room people are scams. They all lose money.

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE ON THE PLANET who is the real deal. You make money all the time, your advice is right on.

So you decide to work with some snivelling newbie who cant change his diapers, if he loses money will blame you, and you will work for $3.00 per day?

Why not get a job at McDonalds? Over here they are paying $14.00 per hour. This guy would have to train 5 people per day to make the same money he could earn flipping burgers. And if someone gets a dry burger they will not post your name on the internet and call you a scam artist.

Please do not reply to any of my comments ever again , thank you.

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  #43 (permalink)
New Orleans Louisiana
 
Trading Experience: Intermediate
Platform: ninjatrader
Favorite Futures: futures
 
Posts: 6 since Jul 2013
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orderflown


Hi Volt,

I'm sure there is alot of information in the trading arena about orderflow. You have a great question. I personally been a person who tries to understand all of this world of trading, and with technology now man you can get a lot of information that can fry the brain, so over the last several I've learned to keep it simple and with orderflow now I see markets from a different perspective.

I have been know a gentleman by the name of Bob Amico from Veritas Trading for many years, and he has a great understanding about orderflow and is very knowledgeable in it. He can explain it extremely well and helps you as well one on one if needed.

I'm a member in his room and his trading style might not be for everyone but he makes green most of his days. All of his trades are accounted for and has full transparency on all of his calls.

Bob takes this trading very seriously and sometimes gets upset, BUT , plays the game hard and that's what meets my personality.

Bob does his homework and plays to WIN. My kinda of guy.

Wayne

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Please do not reply to any of my comments ever again , thank you.

That is a deal. But first please. Don't reply to mine, LOL.

That is like Hirohito asking Roosevelt/Truman, "We are finished with you. Don't ever try to bomb us again."

Seriously, this forum is an open forum, where an intelligent exchange of ideas is permitted.

I simply asked the room if there are indeed, "Mother Teresa like lawyers" who love the little guy as you just inferred by this
munificent trader, and only charges $3.00 per day.

Are there lawyers like that? Good ones?

Perhaps.

Tom Brady loves football. He has a lovely wife, nice kids and has no contract.

Do you think maybe, he could play for some losing team? Just because he is rich and loves football and loves the little guy?

I don't think so.

Of course, my words, busting your get rich quick trading balloon, hurt.

But my advice has cost you nothing.
The market will be nice to you. Some software will happily say "Order Filled." And take all your money.

You donít have to listen to me. 'But donít thin you ever in your wildest dreams could tell me what to do.

Now run along, open an account, and drive a truck a year from now.
TB

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  #45 (permalink)
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bmw421 View Post
Hi Volt,

I'm sure there is alot of information in the trading arena about orderflow. You have a great question. I personally been a person who tries to understand all of this world of trading, and with technology now man you can get a lot of information that can fry the brain, so over the last several I've learned to keep it simple and with orderflow now I see markets from a different perspective.

I have been know a gentleman by the name of Bob Amico from Veritas Trading for many years, and he has a great understanding about orderflow and is very knowledgeable in it. He can explain it extremely well and helps you as well one on one if needed.

I'm a member in his room and his trading style might not be for everyone but he makes green most of his days. All of his trades are accounted for and has full transparency on all of his calls.

Bob takes this trading very seriously and sometimes gets upset, BUT , plays the game hard and that's what meets my personality.

Bob does his homework and plays to WIN. My kinda of guy.

Wayne

Did Bob trade while he was in prison for fraud?

The other question: please ask Bob. When he takes his profits does he give back 50% as one of the conditions of his parole?

He is a nice guy. The other inmates loved his stories about mortgage fraud.

He could earn money without having to mug old ladies. But alas, white collar criminals are eventually caught.

TB

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  #46 (permalink)
New Orleans Louisiana
 
Trading Experience: Intermediate
Platform: ninjatrader
Favorite Futures: futures
 
Posts: 6 since Jul 2013
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Hi TB,

I hope you doing well. I'm not a person to hold sins or accounts on anyone. One day we will all stand before the Lord of

Lord and King of Kings and answer for what we have done.

I like the parable of the woman at the well. When Jesus said woman where are your accusers , and there was none.

So before I cast the first stone I better look in the mirror and examine my own heart. I don't want to be the jury and the judge.

Bible says we all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So I thank you for your insight.

I agree with you there are a lot of crooks out there in this business that want to be somebody there not.

Wayne

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  #47 (permalink)
Dubai UAE
 
Trading Experience: None
Platform: TT X trader
Favorite Futures: Fesx
 
Posts: 3 since Dec 2017
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You can follow the Pit , couple of traders who discuss trades using footprint Market profile and charting , these guys are serious and if you are beginner i wouldnt advice you to start with them , learn the theory and and follow then on twitter and decide if you wanna join

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  #48 (permalink)
Blythe, CA
 
Trading Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: IB, TS, eSignal, Zen-Fire
Favorite Futures: GC
 
Posts: 25 since Sep 2009
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My guess is Order Flow Analytics(OFA) has a successful trade room for a fee. However, I have not attended it because I am reluctant to put out another $200 + per month for a room, and I have an independent streak. Order Flows Trader(OFT) has a free weekly training Monday evenings at 8PM est. He used to have a trade room when he was in the Philippines. Moved his family back to Chicago last year. I prefer learning from documents and videos and webinars plus forums like futures.io. I have worked with order flow concepts for some years now and have encountered a few vendors and their code. I have licensed OFA code as well as NOFT code, and OFT code. For my uses OFT code is most useful because it has the essential indicators that will plot on both footprints and most other bar types like candlesticks, etc.. It is also compatible with SharkIndicators Bloodhound and Blackbird for creating automated systems. For example, Mike Valtos has had a lifetime of trading experience using orderflow in his employment with major firms and had his knowledge programed for NinjaTrader7 and 8. Some of his indicators are Price Rejection, Delta Scalper, Absorption, Pulse, Bulge, Turns, Enigma, Transition. Like most vendors something new is coming. NOFT does a good job on Trapped Traders. All of Mike's tools are based on Bid Ask volume relationships within a bar and over a series of adjacent bars. OFA has a programmer that in the past year has made the OFA software and its ALGO trader a very practical solution to orderflow trading. The programmer released a new module that permits a trader to create his/her own OF concepts using intrabar bid ask data without knowing C#. Some years back I found a tool on BigMike's forum that has become a core tool in my trading after modifying it. I am trying to trace down the source and see if it has been modified for use with NT8 because the NT7 ver uses GOMI data....which poses problems for some traders. The Bid Ask data source needs to be rerouted from the GOMI file to the NT8 BA data Tick Replay. I am not a C# coder. The secret, I believe, to one aspect of OF trading is using a smoothed normalized delta which this oscillator is based on. When the ratio is greater than 80% or less than -80% a reversal or consolidation is at hand. One major flaw in OF trading was highlighted by Fulcrum Trader in that it showed price and cumulative delta can diverge especially with some symbols(currency futures) and at certain times of day like the latter part of the day.

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  #49 (permalink)
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bmw421 View Post
Hi TB,

I hope you doing well. I'm not a person to hold sins or accounts on anyone. One day we will all stand before the Lord of

Lord and King of Kings and answer for what we have done.

I like the parable of the woman at the well. When Jesus said woman where are your accusers , and there was none.

So before I cast the first stone I better look in the mirror and examine my own heart. I don't want to be the jury and the judge.

Bible says we all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So I thank you for your insight.

I agree with you there are a lot of crooks out there in this business that want to be somebody there not.

Wayne

Thank you for the inspiring message Wayne. I am cheap. I drive a 318 BMW. LOL

Seriously, and I am writing a memoir.

It is about sin and reconciliation. Failure and triumph.

I worked in law enforcement while my brother was killing people for hire. He even did a job for John Gotti as a non-made member.

I suffered from severe addiction to violence myself. Sought psychiatric help.

Spent time in jail. 3 days only LOL

I admitted my sins. Then spent the next 40 years making sure others admit their sins.

I lost money trading for 4 years straight.

Once I "came clean" I have never had a losing month since 2006.

You are right. All can be forgiven. BUT THEY HAVE TO SAY I AM SORRY -- AND MEAN IT.

Jordan Belfort says he "learned from his evil ways." Bull

He is earning $75,000 per month and has not paid back the $20 Million he still owes his victims.

That is not sorry.

Bob "Bam Bam" Amico still has not paid a few million in restitution per court order, yet he has this web site pretending to trade.

HE IS FORBIDDEN TO TRADE PER COURT ORDER. SO IS Richard Carter.

So if these guys really are trading, they go back to jail.

If they are not but pretending they are--then they are defrauding their clients.

That is not being contrite.

TB
Here is a trade for your nice comments.

Buy long Dow futures between 29455 and 29417 Close at end of day.
The market had an average of 92 tick swings. Trade them.

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phantomtrader View Post
These are order flow trades today off the Jigsaw platform. I also use my own setup on a chart, but it's primarily order flow.
And yes, it can be done.

Reason why three orders all bought and sold at same time? Then later four more the same?

In other words why not 5 and 5, one shot each?

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