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Have you checked out Neurostreet live futures trade room?

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Well, Jigsaw chat room has a bunch of people in there, trading live accounts, all order flow based. They are all day in there talking about Es and other contracts, talk about areas of interest, showing they trades, where everybody can see they are trading live account. Also there's guys in there trading sim accounts, but they are all behaved people, ready to help those who need help.

Not really sure if this is what you're looking for.

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There are no profitable trading rooms, because good trades are limited in volume and the pie has to be divided up by people who know how to trade. Why would a guy who makes money and knows why he's making money give up a chunk of his profits?

This unfortunately also means that every trading room that charges money is a scam.

As for the order flow, it gives you absolutely no edge. With that said, you absolutely need to see the trades happening, you can do it with a volume profile, a tape, a good dom (jigsaw) or some order flow tool. I personally use volume profile which you can span and stretch over desired time period. You are kind of at a disadvantage if you are not seeing the volume so one of them is a must.

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I'm not sure where to post this but there is so much info on here about order flow but I have yet to find any chat rooms that are analyzing it in real time with much success. Most all speak in generalities or after the fact screen shots. So is there ANYONE who markets education ( Especially for the ES) that can actually trade with orderflow and shows you real time results? I'm not interested in excuses or stories about why this can't be done or it's an art form or blah, blah, blah. I'm looking for someone who actually gets results. Pretty dots and imbalances are cool to see but I'd rather see results and dollar signs. If there is a thread that speaks directly to my inquiry then please direct me there and I apologize for wasting time and causing others effort. It's frustrating to see vendor after vendor pop up without any kind of tradeable track record... I think it's time to crack down and sift through to get to what is real. All this stuff reminds me of the old gold rush stories....You're gonna get rich by finding gold but the real money was made by those selling the tools and supplies to those trying to find the gold. Sorry that this probably comes off as offensive and some vendors may get defensive but let's see some real results from the people peddling the product as the trades unfold.

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I don't think its realistic to trade with orderflow and chat at the same time as the market is moving too fast. by the time you type up something you could shaken out of a trade. I don't trade off order flow myself I use a dom for order entry and you could use the jigsaw dom and see the numbers lifting the offers or hitting the bids. Or you could use the reconstructed tape.

Maybe I don't know how to use these tools to their full advantage but I can read charts pretty well because what matters most is price.

Lastly I think that what your asking for is spoon feeding and you need to be a grown up about trading. Get out there and trade and learn from your losses and wins. Use whichever tools that speak to you.

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Well, Jigsaw chat room has a bunch of people in there, trading live accounts, all order flow based. They are all day in there talking about Es and other contracts, talk about areas of interest, showing they trades, where everybody can see they are trading live account. Also there's guys in there trading sim accounts, but they are all behaved people, ready to help those who need help.

Not really sure if this is what you're looking for.

Jigsaw is the place to start. Watch all their videos on YouTube. Then check out John Grady's course at
https://www.nobsdaytrading.com/
There's a nice interview with John on Chat With Traders: https://soundcloud.com/chat-with-traders/ep-148-john-grady-no-bs-day-trading

Jigsaw is also offering a course by Gary Norden, a well known order flow trader.

The DOM and the tape are the essence of order flow.

Jigsaw also has a chatroom. I've never been in it but it might be helpful because they're all using the Jigsaw DOM
as far as I know.

Not surprised there are no trading rooms for order flow. It's an acquired skill, not a chart setup.

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try orderflowanalytics.com

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you don't mention an answer to my questions but your answer says it all I guess! They just don't exist and all this orderflow talk and tape reading, footprints, bookmap, jigsaw etc , etc is just a mirage......more snake oil.....funny how there is no shortage of people that buy into it without any trade results.

First of all, I think you have an attitude problem. Whether itís caused by a personal failure in trading or a bad experience with some of the tools you have purchased and do not know how to use I donít know and frankly donít care. But coming in here and making assertions such as Order Flow talk is all smoke and mirrors, mirage, snake oil, etc. will yield you NO help and NO results.

Trading is an art that is based on deep understanding of internal market mechanisms called CONTEXT. Order Flow in general, Foot Print, BookMap, Jigsaw and other tools are JUST TOOLS. Itís you as a trader who is responsible for understanding how to use them and implement in order to gain your edge over other market participants.

Based on your initial post and few follow ups I can say that you are just another newbie who expects for the Order Flow to be a Holly Grail that will give you a green or red light when to buy and when to sell. It will not. Itís a tool that can help you to interpret market action and learning how to use it and understand it is entirely your responsibility.

My initial thought was to point you to one of the trading room that I know generates results and holds everyone (including its moderator) accountable for the trades, but after reading your outbursts I believe you will cause a problem there rather than actually learn something.

My advice to you is to learn how the market works and learn the tools (including the Order Flow) that can help you to recognize repeated patterns. Then you can start working on self-discipline, trade management and properly assessing risk / reward.

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Hello,

Check out Retail Fade.

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