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sorry, I just reply to that guy from Traders International, he delete his post

don't misunderstood my post

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I sat in on that Traders International "Live Market" trading seminar last week.

They used a Stochastics overlay/ divergence system for the demo.

They used a live feed but called the trades instead of actually trading.

First trade got stopped out.

Second trade also got stopped out but not called.

The trade then ran in their favor and they claimed profit.

Plus side, you get to trade with a professional.

I lost interest and did not check about fees and dropped off the webinar after an hour.


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Sydney - Australia
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I have watched a couple of the demo and sales sessions with Afshin (CEO) giving his sales pitch and talking up TI and the great indicators and method they use. Most of the times I watched Afshin take or call a trade he seems to lose. I continually receive emails from TI telling me how great they are and how many points they made etc. The only problem is that their results which are posted are not the most accurate and do not show any huge profits at all. TI show brilliant results with "hindsight trading", however they never seem to achieve this in the real world with a live market. hhhhmmmmmmmmm wonder why?

TI is great at marketing and selling however does not deliver anything that they promise. As an ex member, I know.

I can see why people fall for the sales pitch, however once a person joins and becomes a member, all the smoke and mirrors vanish, and you are left with a huge hole in your pocket and a system that does not deliver.

I no longer watch any of their webinars as it's just a waste of time.

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Watched a couple of their seminars. Wasn't very impressed. Also it costs about 8k for their system. Been looking at ETOPRO stuff lately, also seem very interesting. But don't know what the outcome will be. They lease their indicators and also have a trading room. All for about 250 a month. Their indicators seems to be based on some kind of volume. they claim its calculated on big money small money. Any king of feedback on ETOPRO will be appreciated.

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Guys the posts from livingwell have been removed and he is banned for spamming.

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Thanks, I will save 2 cents.

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I feel strongly about TI, and it's not good. I was almost duped by them, and I am skeptic by nature. Several years ago Franz Shoar came to the Vegas expo with an audited statement by a big 5 accounting firm. My trader friend saw it himself. Then it comes out he is nothing but a sim warrior, it's ok to sim but not for 5k plus room dues, and Afshin is full of it. As mentioned I have talked to ppl. that have shelled it out and it is nothing but a modified Stochs and MACD. You will get reamed a new one on trend days. While we are at stay far away from Roger Felton he is the original TI moderator and he is just almost as bad. Except his Stochs and MACD are the real secret sauce, right.

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Who could have forgotten Frank was 'average' in 1 'unit' at a time for his long or shot trade on ET, his 1 'unit' = 50 cars. Soon enough he was swigging 200 cars around in in his cool, calm and collected manner. Until some ETer pointed out there weren't 200 cars moving around on DOM. Busted! that was HILARIOUS.

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I always wonder how the guy that does the "Trade of the Day" for TI NEVER has a losing trade. Does that Market Replay facility allow you to "record" the market movement and then annotate and do a voice over AFTER the fact later in the day as if you were trading it live? I guess this must be how he makes a thousand dollars consistently EVERY single trading session.

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Sydney - Australia
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Trade or the day or trick of the day?

The TI sales and marketing team are really very creative. They keep sending out emails and videos of the "trades of the day" and the videos continually show that in just 2 trades with 10 contracts, they make at least $1000 per day.

This is great and wonderful............. however if you trade in the live TI trading rooms the moderators only trade one, two or at most 3 contacts and they never make the profits and dollars which they advertise in their tardes of the day videos.

Yet again, TI are very deceptive and do not show the truth. They advertise one thing and then trade another! What a surprise.

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