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Day Trade to Win - Atlas Line - Experience?

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I have used both methods, and built automated strategies of both the ATO method and the Atlas Line, with multiple profit targets and adjustable s/l settings to fully optimize the back-testing. On ten years of ES data, the equity curve is a steady slope down.. I think I posted my results on T2W a long time ago.

At the time I was using the ATO ind. it had bugs in the code. I sent JP an email explaining the bugs and how to fix them. In response, he was kind enough to give me a free seat at the next Atlas Line webinar (which he charges for). The Atlas Line is very subjective, unlike the mechanical ATO method.

Bottom line, don't waste your time or money. I was burned

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Have you ever traded simultaneously two same markets long and short

Have you ever traded simultaneously two markets like QM (crude emini) and CL (crude) opposite directions? So for example short QM and long CL at the same entry value.
That eliminates "the market turn around issue" just after entering position. Balance between them is always zero lose/profit except cost of the commission. Than watch the trend, relax and if it is good and stable, exit the one going not in the market direction, keep the proper one for a moment and take a profit.
Just a though from a green trader, Iím just doing demo for 1 month. Experience- losing.

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No. I'd rather not double my commission cost. Although, that is a strategy used by "bigger players" to protect their overall portfolio when the market is at an inflection point such as now.

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