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I found the current offering from MC pretty useless and after searchin the internet found this toolset.at this website

1st Trading Tools

first impressions are good and i had immediate help on request.

I like what is being offered and have made suggestions for improvement. as follows

display IB, Single prints with projections

Open Range highlight with current day open projection


Display projections for Pror Hi/Lo, prior Close, prior open, 2x IB hi/lo, 1.5 x IB hi/lo , IB hi/lo , naked poc.

i may discover that some of this is already there as I am now on day 2.

So far I am impressed and it will be interesting to see what the response will be.

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For anyone interested in market profile tools for MC i am currently trialing a toolset from 1st Trading Tools

no i dont work for them i just thought some of you may be interested


It would be much appreciated if u can answer me few ques related to this if u have used it.

>> Is it open code ?
>> Are the functions can be used in strategy directly or one needs to create their own ?

I m Currently using PriceDistribution indicator from The Swing Machine. Its open code so can be used in strategies after some modifications. But still its not as handy as it should be. Takes ages in calculating large range of data set also its almost impossible to get Developing VA and DPOC. Sure u can get one day back.

I would like if some more users come up with their experience with 1st Trading Tools.

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no its not opencode , but it does look many times better than the one you are using

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no its not opencode , but it does look many times better than the one you are using

If no open code then developing a strategy using it will be impossible. May be i would stick to Price Distribution analysis as of now. It does almost all what this code can do other then TPO counting. Which I dont require.

Thanks for the info.
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Actually i dont know if its open code , I assumed it wasnt .why dont you contact the developer and find out, By the way the toolset is for Multicharts , not ninja trader

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Darshiit,
you can get the functions as closed code and locked to your MultiCharts licensed UserID. Then you can write your own strategy because I refer in the function outputs the VAH, VAL and POC values if you want. But I guess in regarding to your private message to me in this forum that your goal is an other one ;-). I'm sorry, no open code! Sold MC code is secure, TS is always crackable. And MC platform is much much better than TS (my personal opinion).
-swisstrader

Well , I picked a wrong SwissTrader then LOL.

Thanks for the info regarding indicators. May take trial some day when I dont get my code to function the way I want it to be and may be I may purchase it.

But one more thing , " If it can be constructed , for sure it can be destructed. "

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For anyone interested

here are my charts with the provided workspace , on the es chart lines in grey are previous VA, and in reds prev IB at the time i drew them.

I wonder if i can get a job as a salesman LOL

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if i was a programmer i would take up that challenge, where can i learn

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just to say, from what I can tell, this is by far the best MP toolset for Multicharts out there. I've been using these for a while now and I'm pretty impressed with the functionality. They're quick to calculate, unlike what I was using before on TS and the support is great, almost immediate. The guy who wrote them is constantly refining stuff and open to suggestions. So, if you're looking for an MP toolset for MC, this does the job...

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I've had it for a few weeks now and I have to agree with Momo. This toolset can only get better. I like it.

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I also am using this toolset in MultiCharts - I've found the projected historical Point of Control data to give excellent area's to look for support & resistance.


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Good news for those interested from Multicharts forum:


swisstrader Post subject: Re: Market Profile Toolset for MC v6 and higher version Posted: 06 Sep 2010


Good news for our customers: because of so many sells we'll pay back to much paid amount and sell from now for the new price - €149 EUR per MultiCharts Installation.

-swisstrader


(Vital38: New price down from 349 Euro)

MultiCharts: Trading Software for Automated Trading and Backtesting • View topic - Market Profile Toolset for MC v6 and higher version

Market Profile Trading Tools

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Now that has got to be a good deal

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this site has launched a new naked point of control indicator that looks very interesting. I haven't seen NPOC anywhere else, but its a pricey addition

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i saw that a while ago and thought it was abit too pricy, I can draw NPOCs manually i have to say their other tools are great though and ive been using them for afew months since they made that special offer

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i recently got myself the profile tool. it works great, is fast, and it has many options to customize it to your liking.
i was especially happy with the support, swisstrader is a nice guy and communication was top notch.
if you are using market profiling for your trading and currently own a MC license, i think it is great value for your money.

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I see on traderslaboratory there are many market profile dile for multicharts, that are free.
Do anyone make a comparis with Market Profile Trading Tools?
I want to understan to do trading by market profile what should I do?
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Ive looked at all the free stuff , there is no comparison , Why dont you get afree trial of the 1st trading tools software and see for yourself, Im using it to trade everyday and the lines have been very acuurate
They will even supply you with templates to get you started. I have the tools on all my charts

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Ok thats sound good.
Before I need to learn how to trade by market profile.
COuld someone explain or where could i learn to trade by Market Profile?
My Best.

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Any ideas if this is getting built from Tick Data or does it just average out whatever timeframe you have?

I don't know Multicharts at all btw...

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Ive looked at all the free stuff , there is no comparison , Why dont you get afree trial of the 1st trading tools software and see for yourself, Im using it to trade everyday and the lines have been very acuurate
They will even supply you with templates to get you started. I have the tools on all my charts

Would you mind posting a couple charts?

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Any ideas if this is getting built from Tick Data or does it just average out whatever timeframe you have?

I don't know Multicharts at all btw...

Can't speak for this indicator - never used it - but MultiCharts allows all dataseries to be built from Tick Data if you set it up to do so in QuoteManager when using IQfeed. So even a 5 minute bar can be built from tick data, for instance, which comes in handy when doing cumulative delta studies.

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Ok thats sound good.
Before I need to learn how to trade by market profile.
COuld someone explain or where could i learn to trade by Market Profile?
My Best.

That is for this thread (this thread is to review a vendor and his product only), but if you go to the Webinars section on futures.io (formerly BMT) there are two Market Profile webinars there. Plus if you just do a search for keyword market profile on forum, you'll find many good threads. Last, check CME's website, they have some good market profile resources and documents for free.

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Can't speak for this indicator - never used it - but MultiCharts allows all dataseries to be built from Tick Data if you set it up to do so in QuoteManager when using IQfeed. So even a 5 minute bar can be built from tick data, for instance, which comes in handy when doing cumulative delta studies.

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And that tick data also includes the bids/offers so you can work out at bid or at ask in an indicator?

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And that tick data also includes the bids/offers so you can work out at bid or at ask in an indicator?

Yes, see here for example of cumulative delta being constructed in MultiCharts on historical data:



I am not an expert in this arena, I am new to CDV and don't use any other studies that require the info. You might ask @FulcrumTrader, in a more appropriate thread so we don't continue to go , as he has a good deal of experience with it and MultiCharts. You could also ask the author/vendor for this thread what his indicator uses, since he wrote it

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Is swisstrader on this forum at all? I have sent questions to the support@1st... e-mail address from 2 different accounts with no response on either one.

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They are usually a little slow in replying to email (2-5 days).. has been my experience but always respond.

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Thanks! I am now in contact with them and they are both very helpful.

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If your goal is to contact 1st Trading Tools, the correct email address is support@1st-tradingtools.com. The email address listed a couple of posts ago are not for this company.

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sorry for the lack in clarification in my last post (29)


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appologies mike
the prefered email address to use is support@1st-tradingtools.com as you mentioned previously.

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Reviving a thread about 8 months old, but I'm curious as to feedback on this Mkt Profile offering for MC users...

There seems to be no free trial of sorts, so the opinion of others is quite valuable. Thanks.

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Can I write my own formula for the vahigh and valow using easylanguage?

Does anyone have a snippet of the code I could take a look at to see if I can convert
my thinkorswim custom volume profile script to multicharts easylanguage?

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Reviving a thread about 8 months old, but I'm curious as to feedback on this Mkt Profile offering for MC users...

There seems to be no free trial of sorts, so the opinion of others is quite valuable. Thanks.

Ive been using it for a long time now , i wouldnt trade without it.. The levels it produces are exellehnt toolsfor creating my daily strategy. By the way i just noticed on the website that its now free for anyone buying MC. You may want to contact the vendor to obtain afree trial. I think thats what i did before i purchased it.

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Hi all,

Can somebody chime in on the programability of the market profile tool? What functions are exposed? Can you use the market profile for only full-day results or can i market profile the first hour (ie, user-defined time spans).

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Hi all,

Can somebody chime in on the programability of the market profile tool? What functions are exposed? Can you use the market profile for only full-day results or can i market profile the first hour (ie, user-defined time spans).

Thanks in advance!
David

as a Chicago guy...do your homework.

Look at Gom mp in the search window. There are a few options and most are fully open source.

Sorry if you are looking for a specific platform other than NT....but the info you are seeking is available in the forums

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Can I write my own formula for the vahigh and valow using easylanguage?

Does anyone have a snippet of the code I could take a look at to see if I can convert
my thinkorswim custom volume profile script to multicharts easylanguage?

was on TS they could not call indicators in their library market profile but they had one by a different name. Well not a programmer, that what you are asking would seem pretty easy for price, the volume side just a little more complicated. Im sure someone could snap that off in a few minutes

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Would you mind posting a couple charts?

Mike

I'd like to 2nd that request for screen shots. Volume Profile in particular...

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as a Chicago guy...do your homework.

Look at Gom mp in the search window. There are a few options and most are fully open source.

Sorry if you are looking for a specific platform other than NT....but the info you are seeking is available in the forums

Hi Wldman... this was for MultiCharts (as the thread name suggests)

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Hi Everyone

I am looking to do some MP analysis and just get a better feel for it as I am quite unfamiliar with it.

I learned a bit of a strategy but it requires one to combine histograms until there is a completed bell curve (or something like that). Does this addon to MC allow for combining histograms?

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 milkmantony 
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I'm asking because when you goto their website, they have a splashscreen asking you to enter your name and email address. I did this with 2 different email accounts already and never got a replied back from them. I also checked my spam and junk folder and didn't find their email either. Are they still in business?

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 JGSmith 
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I'm asking because when you goto their website, they have a splashscreen asking you to enter your name and email address. I did this with 2 different email accounts already and never got a replied back from them. I also checked my spam and junk folder and didn't find their email either. Are they still in business?

The same thing happened to me, and I also tried a few different email addresses. I was really looking forward to seeing what they had produced.

does anybody have the market profile that they had? I would enjoy checking it out.

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 trumpy 
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I had the same issue no response from these guys. Does anyone know where I can get a decent MP tool for MC? I have tried the included one from the MC Support Forum and I did not really like it.

I also have a full copy of Ninja I have seen good MP indicators for NT but I don't really want to switch back to Ninja for charting if I can help it.

Thanks,

Scott

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 hoolio 
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Very frustrating.

I think they have abandoned their website.

Tried today to log on to it and buy their VP tool but find the domain name has expired

I do not know where to buy a similar tool that would work in market replay, which was my primary purpose for the tool.

Any ideas ?

Thanks

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Very frustrating.

I think they have abandoned their website.

Tried today to log on to it and buy their VP tool but find the domain name has expired

I do not know where to buy a similar tool that would work in market replay, which was my primary purpose for the tool.

Any ideas ?

Thanks

Yep, abandon ship and switch to SierraCharts or InvestorRT. Or there are some decent tools for Ninja ...
Incredible, but even AmiBroker has some things available for volume profile on minute based which actually work in playback ... this area seems to be totally neglected by Multicharts PM.

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 HectorPriamedes 
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Any updates from anyone? It's been a couple of years. Anyone find a decent Volume Profile kit for Multicharts that works in replay mode?

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