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There is only One

If you wish to learn to trade like a proprietary trader...then I strongly suggest Jigsaw Trading, and their platform. Not only will Pete assist you in any way possible, he is a trader himself, and as a member there is a trade room with some very smart, wise, and successful traders, that also provide their personal expertise to assisting newbies. Look up Jigsaw on Youtube, and then have a personal chat with Pete.

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All Tools Are Easy To Use

First I agree with another responder that Bookmap and Jigsaw are good products with good support and with a little practice they are easy enough to use. If one product has something the others don't and it really works the others will have it tomorrow.

And as another responder said, just pick one and stick with it.

My title that 'all tools are easy to use' is meant to reflect that with relatively little training most tools are easy to use. Just think that someone wanting to be a painter or sculptor, all they have to do is learn to use a paint brush or a chisel. Easy! Yes easy to use, difficult to master!

Order flow like almost all the other indicators is easy to use but it takes a huge amount of time and effort to be proficient - and - just like most people who want to be artists they never really make it.

Ironically using an order flow 'tool' is in fact nothing like a paint brush. With a paint brush you can start 'painting' immediately and you see results, as good or as bad as they may be. With order flow using the tool doesn't do a thing. It doesn't even tell you when to enter and exit trades. You have to learn through a lot of experience what order flow is telling you in all of the numerous market contexts and then determine if, when and how you are going to trade.

The fact that you are starting with futures and are looking for an 'easy to use' tool leads me to think that you are perhaps like a starting painter hoping to make income from selling your paintings and I encourage you to do so but do so with your eyes wide open that it will take a lot of time and effort before you sell your first painting let alone a Mona Lisa.

PS - Bookmap has daily 1/2 hour live webinars. Watch them for a week or two.

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In my opinion you cannot beat the deal of the MZ pack for footprint charts and volume profile charts.

https://www.mzpack.pro/product/mzpack-3-for-ninjatrader-8/.

You can buy the whole package for life for 299 and add another license for another 70.00. The programmer does respond to questions in a reasonable time and comes out with updates regularly.

To trade the DOS I HIGHLY recommend Jigsaw with Mr Davies and Mr Grady as mentors. They both respond to questions in a timely manner. Mr Davies does a great job in the cornerstone education of DOS trading and philosophy where Mr Grady does the deep dive going into incredible detail looking at individual trades examining every decision made and his thought process through the entire trade.They are both a great asset on the way to becoming a professional trader. Will be in his Fall two week shadowing class for sure!

Hope this helps...

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Yes NT8 with lifetime licence is the best way to go. Market Profile and Order Flow included.

I haven't used my NT8 for a while so pardon me,,,,so NT8 has market profile as in TPO now?

Back to order flow subject,,,it all depends on what you want to do with it.
If you are into reading tick by tick flow,,,Jigsaw will help you.
If you are into reading overall context the cumulative delta is enough.

PS: Ever since I moved over to Sierra chart I haven't used NT8 & Jigsaw so I'm interested in selling mine (the license) if it's allowed.

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all r good.//but do check gom stuff..is neat

the best one is no more available if u want dom....was auction dashboard.

u can use jigsaw,...is pretty good

u can do real funky stuff if u want,,,,with a feed such as cqg n excel....can dissect the hell of a dom...which no off the cuff software will give,,,

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I haven't used my NT8 for a while so pardon me,,,,so NT8 has market profile as in TPO now?

They do have TPO charts now for licence holders. I do not have a licence, but did watch a presentation video they did on their new tools, and TPO is now an option in the volume profile settings. Choosing TPO letters and having the value area and POC calculated by TPO rather than volume at price.


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PS: Ever since I moved over to Sierra chart I haven't used NT8 & Jigsaw so I'm interested in selling mine (the license) if it's allowed.

It isn't. Periodically people post here offering to sell a Ninja licence and the Ninjatrader forum rep replies that Ninjatrader terms and conditions don't allow licences to be transferred and anybody found using one will have the licence cancelled.

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all r good.//but do check gom stuff..is neat

the best one is no more available if u want dom....was auction dashboard.

u can use jigsaw,...is pretty good

u can do real funky stuff if u want,,,,with a feed such as cqg n excel....can dissect the hell of a dom...which no off the cuff software will give,,,

This is interesting, definitely a rabbit-hole worth exploring. I find the S5/CT Bookmap to be very fascinating from how FT71 uses it in his videos. Not currently using anything so sophisticated but definitely on my radar, you've piqued my interest!

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Additional Order Flow Programs for NT8

I have been trying BuysideGlobal's order flow package. Quite comprehensive.

Ninja had a webinar this afternoon by ABC123trader.com. Apparently the company's first presentation on NT. Very original and comprehensive. Worth considering.

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This is interesting, definitely a rabbit-hole worth exploring. I find the S5/CT Bookmap to be very fascinating from how FT71 uses it in his videos. Not currently using anything so sophisticated but definitely on my radar, you've piqued my interest!

is ok...i have bookmap....is definitely good....nothing revolutionary...just coz someone uses it does not make a product good or bad....how u use it does

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also gom...i play nq mainly...es ofcourse too

i like gom....it has 1 thing others doesnt....u got 2 find it
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I am using ninjatrader 7 why NT7 no such volume indicators?

You need to migrate to NT 8.

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