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My last name is irrelevant to the issues at hand and she knows who I am. What is relevant is information concerning Nat and her services for interested traders. I stated facts in my posts concerning her services for the individual who asked about the credibility of her services in this thread. You've confirmed those facts in your posts. Nothing else needs to be said.

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Good sense at last

Nat says she has never heard of you, has no idea who you are. I have some suspicions.

But I don't blame you for not wanting to post your real name. I think it is very sensible, the first sign of intelligence is this entire conversation.

It is just that you look like a fool demanding Nat publish every detail of her financial life in a forum where you are unwilling to sign your name to your posts.

-- Bill Dampier

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It is just that you look like a fool demanding Nat publish every detail of her financial life in a forum where you are unwilling to sign your name to your posts.

-- Bill Dampier


Hi, I've been reading this thread with great interest. As an observer, I don't think people like me are asking for your mortgage statement, car payment, restaurant tabs, credit card statement, etc. And I don't think I'm being FOOLISH asking for it. I would say it is DUE DILIGENCE on our part.

I want to see the DAY TRADING STATEMENTS...why is that hard for you to understand?!!!

This is futures.io (formerly BMT)...you are held at a higher level of INTEGRITY!!!

"Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." --- "Therefore, I Believe it and I will see it. And every day and in every way, I am healthier, wealthier, and wiser."
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Mr. Dampier,

You are free to scroll through every post I've made in this thread. In NOT ONE of them have I demanded or requested that she post anything much less ANY detail of her financial life.

You seem to be the one lacking in understanding and intelligence. I have posted in a manner that is quite easy to understand for the unbiased reader.

As for your comment that I "look like a fool", while your logic for calling me that is erroneous, if given the choice I would much rather be a fool than a crook who takes people's money under questionable pretenses and claims. At least I can sleep comfortably at night. It is sad that you have to resort to calling folks names but it is also clear why you have to resort to that type of tactic.


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::Yawn::

The song remains the same. There is nothing new here. Just another example of a vendor who claims to trade in a cash account but refuses to prove it while asking for your money to get "educated." In this instance, we have an unemployed spouse coming to the breadwinner's rescue and gets offended that his wife's integrity is challenged.

According to Tundi's rules of vendor engagement, I rate this as: AVOID.

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Says it all

These three posts pretty much explain why serious people don't bother w discussions like this. I'm trying to remember how I got sucked into it.

1. Peter, the high standards of integrity demanded here obviously don't extend to the posters, who use anonymity to repeat malicious falsehoods and broadcast insults. They seem like mice who want to be rats, but lack the courage.

For anyone who wants to look, the details of Nat's calls are posted on her website every day. It is exactly her financial statements they want to see. Not gonna happen.

2. Tundi, I somehow suspect you will never experience first-hand the difference between being unemployed and being retired. And how do you react when your wife's integrity is impugned?

3. Ringo Whatsisname: All bluster and bullroar, as usual. Give my best to Paul when you see him.

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These three posts pretty much explain why serious people don't bother w discussions like this. I'm trying to remember how I got sucked into it.

1. Peter, the high standards of integrity demanded here obviously don't extend to the posters, who use anonymity to repeat malicious falsehoods and broadcast insults. They seem like mice who want to be rats, but lack the courage.

For anyone who wants to look, the details of Nat's calls are posted on her website every day. It is exactly her financial statements they want to see. Not gonna happen.

2. Tundi, I somehow suspect you will never experience first-hand the difference between being unemployed and being retired. And how do you react when your wife's integrity is impugned?

3. Ringo Whatsisname: All bluster and bullroar, as usual. Give my best to Paul when you see him.

-- Bill Dampier

1. Bill if you didn't want to get sucked in then your solution is simple. STOP RESPONDING.

2. As to someone questioning your wifes integrity. If you both can't stand that, she is in the wrong business. Good bad or awful, that will be a fact of life.

3. Everyone else. ENOUGH, all you are doing is providing free advertising.

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The back and forth bickering and arguing will stop now. That is not what this forum is about. I suggest that everyone involved stop posting, they've said what they wanted to say, any further discussion from these individuals on this thread is just mud throwing instead of anything constructive and positive.




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well I dont know about everyone else.. but i kinda enjoyed readin that thread....lol

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Mike thanx for closing down some of the posters.

when i was in the room, i never heard or cared about asking for the owner's spouse. for the spouse to come on this forum as her spokesman, is outrageous. he is no2 to her in trading and i think let her do her own talking.

naturus running the service and charging for it, is a public service. she doesnt volunteer anything. people pay for a service that has unclear results. yes her results are posted but when i was in the room. nothing was really clear.

if she is such a gr8 trader, why sell her socalled signals. she can double size and make much mo money.

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