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Earn2Trade (Helios) - "The Gauntlet"

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I had a look through the Earn2Trade website the other day.

This is why anybody trading with Ninjatrader is requiring double margin if entering a stop:
https://help.earn2trade.com/platform/how-does-margin-work-with-ninjatrader

This is where they say full exchange margin is required:
https://help.earn2trade.com/how-much-margin-will-i-be-able-to-trade-with

As people mention the NQ, looking at the exchange page will tell you the product margin ($6,150):
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/e-mini-nasdaq-100_performance_bonds.html#sortField=maintenanceRate&sortAsc=false&clearingCode=NQ&sector=EQUITY+INDEX&exchange=CME&pageNumber=1

Earn2Trade use the full margin because unlike the competitor day trading only firms, they allow traders to hold positions overnight so that is the necessary margin amount required. This is mentioned on their site and in the webinar they did for futures.io:

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So just to simplify things.

If would enter a trade, 2 contracts with a 2 contract target and a 2 contract stop, i would need to provide the margin for 6 contracts?
I was also planning on doing the Gauntlet, however if this is the case and i need to provide the overnight margin for 6 contracts each trade it seems to make it impossible for my strategy to work there.





Ps; For everyone reading this: A like/thanks to my original post in the link below would be very much appreciated since i can win a price with it!

I have found the answer to my question.

Turns out this is only the case when one is using NT.
Since i will be using the RTrader DOM for my execution there is no problem for me.

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Hi guys,

Our November Journal Challenge is about to begin, and is sponsored by Earn2Trade. One of the prizes is a free 60-day Gauntlet, which can be used towards earning a fully-funded trading account.

You can check out the main event thread here:


My goal with these events is to encourage journaling. It is my absolute belief that the more you journal, the more you improve your trading. I hope to see you participate!

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Wouldn't a workaround in NT be to use simulated stops?

I know its not the ideal solution, but at least that way you aren't reserving more margin.

Downside of course is the additional latency involved , and of course your internet connection quality needs to be solid.

I started the Gauntlet lask week. Really hopeful this is a good avenue for me to accumulate funds for my own personal futures account.

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Wouldn't a workaround in NT be to use simulated stops?

I know its not the ideal solution, but at least that way you aren't reserving more margin.

Downside of course is the additional latency involved , and of course your internet connection quality needs to be solid.

I started the Gauntlet lask week. Really hopeful this is a good avenue for me to accumulate funds for my own personal futures account.

It was determined through discussion in another thread on this forum that there was a bug in Rithmic resulting in a double margin requirement when a NinjaTrader ATM was used connected to Rithmic. Once Rithmic resolves this bug, NinjaTrader will only require 1X margin.

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that's great, has Rithmic give you an ETA on when to expect a fix on their end?

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that's great, has Rithmic give you an ETA on when to expect a fix on their end?

No they have not. For clarification, this bug only impacts Rithmic installations that use SMAC risk settings. NinjaTrader Brokerage does not use these settings and thus is not impacted by this bug. Rithmic at NinjaTrader Brokerage only uses 1X margin.

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Hi guys,

Just a quick note to say "Happy Anniversary" to Earn2Trade, a sponsor of futures io.

We sent them a cake and cupcakes to celebrate. They posted this on social media:

https://www.facebook.com/earn2trade/posts/2217600355231056




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I'm posting this as I have been asked about my eventual success with the Gauntlet as I was a big supporter when the Gauntlet first came out. When I founded this post few had heard of them and there was a lot of misinformation about the company. After calling them I felt they were a big improvement over TopStep and OneUp, and I still believe that.

I have yet to attempt the Gauntlet, because at the time it wasn't possible for me to do so and now it looks like, sadly, I never will for the original rules have changed. I expect success bred the changes or maybe it was wisdom, I don't know, but if my memory serves correctly originally the sim drawdown was subjective (up to 30% as defined by the trader's experience and style), and the capital allocation was $50k. It was exciting to see an entry trader program that made sense for those aspiring to a real hedgefund-style allocation. However now the capital allocation has dropped to $25k and the drawdown is a meager 10%. It's so tight that now most sustainable traders likely to be accepted are day traders and weekly swingers.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, I still think Helios is an opportunity, but the new rules don't fit my style like the old rules and to try to shoehorn my style into the new rules is not worth the time or the grief. I would suggest who are like me try Collective2.

I wish them, and every Gauntlet trader, a prosperous New Year.

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I got a email from the Earn2Trade.
They made a rewards for becoming the funded trader.

Everyone should definitely check the website.

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