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www.astro-trend.com (Norm Winski)

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 paraspiral 
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So I am on the E-mini S&P Day Traders Group on facebook. There is an old trader there by the name of Norm Winski. He has the belief that there are specifics times of the day to trade markets. The part that gets a bit crazy is he believes it is astrological. Apparently, this theory has been around since the 40's written by a guy named Donald Bradley. To me, if the theory works they it is probably similar to Larry Williams Seasonal trades and not much to do with the stars.

Any of you all heard of him? Have you traded his theories? I am too much of a skeptic to give it a try. I guess mostly because he offered a free class and a free newsletter but would not mention price. That spooked me more than the crazy theory.

I ran into a website called bradleysiderograph.com that talked about this theory also.

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So I am on the E-mini S&P Day Traders Group on facebook. There is an old trader there by the name of Norm Winski. He has the belief that there are specifics times of the day to trade markets. The part that gets a bit crazy is he believes it is astrological. Apparently, this theory has been around since the 40's written by a guy named Donald Bradley. To me, if the theory works they it is probably similar to Larry Williams Seasonal trades and not much to do with the stars.

Any of you all heard of him? Have you traded his theories? I am too much of a skeptic to give it a try. I guess mostly because he offered a free class and a free newsletter but would not mention price. That spooked me more than the crazy theory.

I ran into a website called bradleysiderograph.com that talked about this theory also.

I haven't visited or know anything about this guy or his site, and it's good that your skeptical, because if you think the optimal time to trade a market can be derived from astrological (which I personally believe is vodoo science, others live and die by it, each to their own) means then we'd all be focusing on that. Nobody knows the optimal time to trade the market, sure we know it moves more fluidly and with good liquidity in its RTH hours, and there are times like 10:30-10:40 where you usually see some movement, but if you trade thinking at 10:30 it has to make a move, then you're wasting your time and money. Do i expect it every time? no, will it move every time near these 'hot' time zones? no. If you take trades based on time periods, your simply gambling your money.

You shouldn't even be bothered to take a free class / newsletter, why waste your brain space with nonsensical stuff. You're on the right track, but even being curious about this should be a red flag, because its going to lead you in the wrong direction. You trade when the market makes a move, can you know when it will? no. but you can be there vigilant, ready to fire the trigger when the conditions best optimal to your setup arise. What you'll realize is good trades will appear throughout many different systems and trading styles. Some may use fibs to see and say that oh that would've been a good effortless trade, someone maybe using volume profile, others might be looking at DOM and how its being cleared aggressively and then trade based on that. Whatever the system, I've personally observed that when you have a good trade setup, and those who are actually trading would be taking the trade and when you review theirs vs yours, you will observe that he took the same trade around the same area, even though we came to the same conclusion via different assumptions & analysis.

So don't be bothered with this stuff, focus on what really matters, which is creating your edge suitable and adapted to your psyche and go from there. Someone must have paid real money for this and maybe there's some here lurking and can offer insight on the junk, but otherwise don't waste your time on this curiosity.

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I haven't visited or know anything about this guy or his site, and it's good that your skeptical, because if you think the optimal time to trade a market can be derived from astrological (which I personally believe is vodoo science, others live and die by it, each to their own) means then we'd all be focusing on that. Nobody knows the optimal time to trade the market, sure we know it moves more fluidly and with good liquidity in its RTH hours, and there are times like 10:30-10:40 where you usually see some movement, but if you trade thinking at 10:30 it has to make a move, then you're wasting your time and money. Do i expect it every time? no, will it move every time near these 'hot' time zones? no. If you take trades based on time periods, your simply gambling your money.

You shouldn't even be bothered to take a free class / newsletter, why waste your brain space with nonsensical stuff. You're on the right track, but even being curious about this should be a red flag, because its going to lead you in the wrong direction. You trade when the market makes a move, can you know when it will? no. but you can be there vigilant, ready to fire the trigger when the conditions best optimal to your setup arise. What you'll realize is good trades will appear throughout many different systems and trading styles. Some may use fibs to see and say that oh that would've been a good effortless trade, someone maybe using volume profile, others might be looking at DOM and how its being cleared aggressively and then trade based on that. Whatever the system, I've personally observed that when you have a good trade setup, and those who are actually trading would be taking the trade and when you review theirs vs yours, you will observe that he took the same trade around the same area, even though we came to the same conclusion via different assumptions & analysis.

So don't be bothered with this stuff, focus on what really matters, which is creating your edge suitable and adapted to your psyche and go from there. Someone must have paid real money for this and maybe there's some here lurking and can offer insight on the junk, but otherwise don't waste your time on this curiosity.

Like I said the "science' behind it probably coincides with the seasonality of markets period. Either way it was more his approach to selling the class that seemed odd. Free class, free newsletter ...tell me what shit really costs. Either way I a

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 nguyen74 
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I met Norm Winski in a FB group also. I actually took him up on his free trial offers and here is what I got from it.

Norm Winski is an older gentleman that has been in the trading business for quite awhile, maybe about 40 yrs or so. I've found some references and sources to things dated in 1980's relating to him.

Anyway, he has a newletter that list specific times each day to trade that are computed using astrology. For the trial, he will send you his newsletter that covers a few weeks listing the times to trade for each day. It also comes with a very specific set of rules on how to trade. He'll also get on a video/screen sharing call with you to go thru the trades on the chart to make sure you know what to do. Each day he'll ask you to send him the results of each trades during the day so he can compare it with his. Following his method, you will only be risking about 8 ticks per trade. At the end of the trial, if his newsletter and his method makes sense to you and is profitable, you can then sign up to continue receiving his newsletter and support.

Unfortunately, I couldn't follow most of his trades because I was trying to finish up for my funded trader account with Earn2Trade. I couldn't trade two accounts at the same time. I did finished my funded trader test quite successfully with over $11,000 of profits in the minimum allowed 15 days thus exceeding the minimum $6,000 profits.

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BTTF does the same type of stuff.

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So I am on the E-mini S&P Day Traders Group on facebook. There is an old trader there by the name of Norm Winski. He has the belief that there are specifics times of the day to trade markets. The part that gets a bit crazy is he believes it is astrological. Apparently, this theory has been around since the 40's written by a guy named Donald Bradley. To me, if the theory works they it is probably similar to Larry Williams Seasonal trades and not much to do with the stars.

Any of you all heard of him? Have you traded his theories? I am too much of a skeptic to give it a try. I guess mostly because he offered a free class and a free newsletter but would not mention price. That spooked me more than the crazy theory.

I ran into a website called bradleysiderograph.com that talked about this theory also.

Hi, I know your post was a while ago. Do you still follow astro stuff for trading? I am also looking into it and find it fascinating to say the least.

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Hi, I know your post was a while ago. Do you still follow astro stuff for trading? I am also looking into it and find it fascinating to say the least.

Hi I actually bought a book because I had a friend convince me there was a science portiton to the astrology. Example gravity from the moon affects sleep cycles. Here is a NIH article talking about it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:443/26096730/ Could there be truth to astronomical cycles and financial markets? I would need hard core statistical analysis done to show it too me.

A fun book to read and I would take all of it with a GRAIN of SALT. Is the 2021 financial astrology alamac. (https://www.amazon.com/Financial-Astrology-Almanac-2021-Investing/dp/1989078443) I bought it and it was entertaining. I made no trades off it. However the author does seem to add math to his findings make it more reliable than other sources.


My opinion at the end of all of this, sorry if financial astrology works it works because of seasonality. If you want to use seasonality for trading and I have had some luck check out this product called seasonax.com. It is pretty awesome and tied with technical analysis I have had some good trades. Also follow Larry Williams (for seasonality) he has made more money in the markets than most financial astrologers.

If you would like to chat with me live on how I mapped out trades with technical analysis and seasonality let me know. You can PM me. I have a pretty cool trading plan I came up with. I no longer use linkedin or facebook at the election fiasco here.

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Hi I actually bought a book because I had a friend convince me there was a science portiton to the astrology. Example gravity from the moon affects sleep cycles. Here is a NIH article talking about it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:443/26096730/ Could there be truth to astronomical cycles and financial markets? I would need hard core statistical analysis done to show it too me.

A fun book to read and I would take all of it with a GRAIN of SALT. Is the 2021 financial astrology alamac. (https://www.amazon.com/Financial-Astrology-Almanac-2021-Investing/dp/1989078443) I bought it and it was entertaining. I made no trades off it. However the author does seem to add math to his findings make it more reliable than other sources.


My opinion at the end of all of this, sorry if financial astrology works it works because of seasonality. If you want to use seasonality for trading and I have had some luck check out this product called seasonax.com. It is pretty awesome and tied with technical analysis I have had some good trades. Also follow Larry Williams (for seasonality) he has made more money in the markets than most financial astrologers.

If you would like to chat with me live on how I mapped out trades with technical analysis and seasonality let me know. You can PM me. I have a pretty cool trading plan I came up with. I no longer use linkedin or facebook at the election fiasco here.

Thank you,

I would like to chat some time. I am busy with my money earning job for a few more weeks, then I will have some time to dedicate to some live time with you.

I am in regular contact with Norm Winski and I think he is a great astro guy. Old school with a great sense of humor.

I continue to analyze ES with it's natal chart and correlating the transiting Planetary Lines with it. There are some amazing turning points. All these observations I have are in hindsight. Mind you there have been a select few turning points in the ES that I anticipated in advance that came to pass.

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