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Collective2's Rod Casilli - Ask Me Anything (AMA)

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What will be the FIO journal policy for anybody going beyond the free trial, will they be classed as vendors?
Or just treated more like those who do Topstep/other combines and/or become funded traders?

Cheers

Hi rat

The things are quite clear: Topstep/other are a system that allows to earn money for oneself (if ever).
SELLING signals on C2/other is inviting known/unknown investors - means familiy/friends PLUS 3rd party
to join while accepting a monthly fee upfront.
This is the reason why on fio every member doing so will be classified as a vendor: forget about journals.
I think that it is implicated as neither Mike nor Rod answered my question in my previous post here.

As I mentioned: It is a DILEMMA. Discussions may boil from now

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The things are quite clear: Topstep/other are a system that allows to earn money for oneself (if ever).
SELLING signals on C2/other is inviting known/unknown investors - means familiy/friends PLUS 3rd party
to join while accepting a monthly fee upfront.
This is the reason why on fio every member doing so will be classified as a vendor: forget about journals.

GFIs1

That would be a shame, but I can understand the dilemma and have no problem with whatever the final decision is.

To me the C2 route looks useful as a potential behaviour modifier, towards a better style of trading that might help to prevent short termism, jumpiness and order fiddling. The C2 platform will clearly not produce a marketable return from any approach or strategy that still does that, so for me that was a big plus in seriously considering it as a personal cricket bat. Maybe that's just naivety on my part.

Of course, on a different note it would still be a long road to getting funding coming in rather than going out..., so to be immediately classed as a vendor might be a little rose-tinted anyway.

Maybe a viable route can be found, and hopefully Mike continues to make good progress on the health front so we can get a yay or a nay.

Cheers

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What % of trade leaders have more then zero subscribers?

We don't publish subscriber stats. Most profitable strategies with a track record greater than 6 months attract subscribers.

No information constitutes a recommendation by Collective2, its agents, affiliates, employees, or guest contributors, to buy, sell, or hold any security, financial product, or instrument mentioned or discussed herein or to engage in any specific trading or investment tactic or strategy. Online trading is risky. The risk of loss in online trading of futures, stocks, options, and foreign currency is substantial. All results on Collective2 are hypothetical data. Learn what this means
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Hi Rod,

Thanks for your webinar today, I found it very interesting. I had submitted several questions but only manged to get a response to one of them. Hoping you can look into them and respond. Thanks!

Q: Are you making the # of subscribers each trader leader has per month available? and if not why not?



Q: how many subscribers does this trade leader "simplicity trading" have right now?



Q: if you're a trade leader presenting to an investment club, in an attempt to attract subscribers, what stops them from only having one member pay for your signals, and then share them with the rest in the group? If an investor pays a flat fee and they can trade as many contracts as they want, it seems kind of unfair to the one who is actually generating the alpha. Am I missing something?



Q: Is there a way where I could only charge a fee to investors if I have a profitable month, and decline a fee if I have a negative month?

Thanks for attending or watching the webinar.

We are not currently listing the number of subscribers to each strategy. We do show if a strategy has live subscribers through several icons that indicate so and we also show new subscribers temporarily on the strategy page under the Summary Statistics. If a strategy has subscribers that are AutoTrading, you can view the Trade History and see an approximate # of subscribers through the live fills.

Re: a subscriber sharing trades with others - This is simply not an issue. Is it possible sure. But we don't see it in practice. Investors in the C2 marketplace are interested in AutoTrading and automation, not watching for an email or trade they have to place on their own. And I wouldn't want to be part of any investment club that is knowing gaming a system, especially one impacting fellow traders/investors.

C2 subscriptions are purposely NOT based on the number of contracts traded. There are other "futures systems" vendors with this model and it attracts much smaller average account sizes for a variety of reasons. C2 investors have self-directed accounts where the scaling is limited based on AT Plan levels. Remember, as a Trade Leaders you are free to set your own price. Keep in mind, we want to be a marketplace where a leader ccan trade 1 contract or 25 and investors with all sizes of accounts can choose to subscribe if the price is right.

Yes, we are working on a pay if profitable feature.

No information constitutes a recommendation by Collective2, its agents, affiliates, employees, or guest contributors, to buy, sell, or hold any security, financial product, or instrument mentioned or discussed herein or to engage in any specific trading or investment tactic or strategy. Online trading is risky. The risk of loss in online trading of futures, stocks, options, and foreign currency is substantial. All results on Collective2 are hypothetical data. Learn what this means
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Hi guys,

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Anyone that experienced an invalid SSL certificate error in the last 12 hours while trying to register for the webinar, can now try again -- the problem has been corrected. Sorry for the trouble.

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

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Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
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What did everyone think of the webinar?

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
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4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
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