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Elite Member
knoxville tennessee usa
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
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NerradC View Post
I notice too! they have been coming out with additional features and it does like you say looks like more toward day trading on equities particularly US equities, whether or not they are good on day trtading i m not sure.

i trade swing timeframe myself and i first come across Tas from using Bloomberg, but that was during my previous job, I find it helpful in a way. so without Bloomberg, i got to subscribe Tas.


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DarrenC

were you able to back test there vega algo on Bloomberg.

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knoxville tennessee usa
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
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mokasha View Post
Yes very overpriced for a market profile indicator, the scanner is useful but for a daytrader who focuses on 1-2 instruments it's useless, may be a swing trader would benefit from it


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you better have a large account . there scanner and indicator package is 500.00 a month. that is 6000.00 a year , meaning you would need to make 10% on a 60,000 account just to pay for that. that is why they move to day traders. they are targeting new traders, who think there stuff my be the grail. it is far from it.

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forgiven View Post
you better have a large account . there scanner and indicator package is 500.00 a month. that is 6000.00 a year , meaning you would need to make 10% on a 60,000 account just to pay for that. that is why they move to day traders. they are targeting new traders, who think there stuff my be the grail. it is far from it.



Recently they have released a day Trader tool called the Edge, which is much less than that focused on ES daytrader, but it's basically a breadth indicator of the stocks who are above/below the VAH & VAL of the volume profile, it's useful but it cannot be your chosen tool to day trade the ES.


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Recently they have released a day Trader tool called the Edge, which is much less than that focused on ES daytrader, but it's basically a breadth indicator of the stocks who are above/below the VAH & VAL of the volume profile, it's useful but it cannot be your chosen tool to day trade the ES.


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i know there are someone ( not verified ) overheard from other Tas users during one of the webinar ( when we can got a separate tab to chat with everyone else off topic ) using the "cross-over" signal of number of companies trading above respective value area vs number of companies trading below respective value area, or vice versa; to trade ES.

if you can imagine, i thought is quite interesting but again, i have not verified this.

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DarrenC

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forgiven View Post
were you able to back test there vega algo on Bloomberg.

Hi i didnt manage to backtest, i was not well literate in that area and i was not given full time on that bloomberg machine. it was shared among a team of us.

i did ask and many others asked similar question to the educator, his answer was kinda tricky. Because a big part of this determined by how you manage your stop, from initial stop using either HVA/POC/LVA and subsequently trailing stop using new boxes reference level or drill down to shorter timeframe for boxes reference; it become very difficult to backtest. Even for himself, he manage his stop base on experience.

so that was kinda his answer to your question, if i remember correctly.

my experience is, you definitely need to work out ur way to filter entry and manage stops. very personal and i m still learning my way.


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DarrenC

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my understanding of Tas indicators

Hi traders
I happened to talk about Tas again with a member, if you interested:

https://futures.io/trading-journals/42594-nerradc-journal-challenge-july-2017-a-17.html#post655376


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DarrenC

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Favorite Futures: ym
 
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NerradC View Post
Hi i didnt manage to backtest, i was not well literate in that area and i was not given full time on that bloomberg machine. it was shared among a team of us.

i did ask and many others asked similar question to the educator, his answer was kinda tricky. Because a big part of this determined by how you manage your stop, from initial stop using either HVA/POC/LVA and subsequently trailing stop using new boxes reference level or drill down to shorter timeframe for boxes reference; it become very difficult to backtest. Even for himself, he manage his stop base on experience.

so that was kinda his answer to your question, if i remember correctly.

my experience is, you definitely need to work out ur way to filter entry and manage stops. very personal and i m still learning my way.


cheers
DarrenC

agree but when you have to play with filters and stops why pay 300.00 a month for that. you can do that on a moving average cross.


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Favorite Futures: crude gold sugar wheat soybean
 
Posts: 201 since Jun 2017
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forgiven View Post
agree but when you have to play with filters and stops why pay 300.00 a month for that. you can do that on a moving average cross.

yeah definitely... i have tried using various simple indicators when i first started and i ended with Fibonacci and candlestick pattern on equities CFD ( not avail in US) and Forex. i came to a stage where i stop losing money but i hardly make money -__- then i move on to Futures and Tas at the same time, introduced by a friend who is a fixed income trader for a sovereign fund. He used Tas for longer term on bloomberg at work (which doesnt cost him a penny, damn)

i do not tend to complicated stuff but moving averages doesnt make sense to me on commodities chart in my time frame. Personally I would prefer moving average setups for long term stock markets strategy. and i like commodities and i like swing timeframe which i think the velocity suit my personality, and hopefully the "business volume" is able to generate cash flow on quarterly basic. i wish i know other platform earlier which give me tools to analyse market profile/vol profile etc but Tas first came in my world and occupy a place till now. the first year using Tas i have turn my p/l around. I am finishing my 2nd year and i think i m improving. at this stage I cant take away Tas because i have a rather systematic approach using it. I am exploring Stage5 and investorRT, maybe one day i will survive without Tas and i will be happy to see that. I dont like having paid and being dependent on Tas.

anyone has any idea any other platform has market profile tool similar to Tas? Thank you for sharing.


cheers
DarrenC

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