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Need opinion on system builder software like Adaptrader

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Thank you very much aadbosma for your answers.
To get the data, do you know if i need to pay? Do you trade the strategies created by GSB?

I am seeing all the videos and reading the guide, i will give it a try.

Thank you very much.

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Could u try spy, long and short on a 15min? Not sure about stop. Can u optimise the stop to get best results?


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Thank you very much aadbosma for your answers.
To get the data, do you know if i need to pay? Do you trade the strategies created by GSB?

I am seeing all the videos and reading the guide, i will give it a try.

Thank you very much.

Hi ssp729,

You're welcome.

I use Tradestation and pay about 20 USD per month for the data.
You can export the Tradestation data (-view -data window -save) to a textfile.
This textfile can then be used in GSB.

At the moment I am trading live three GSB systems.
And am developing swing trading systems on other tickers with GSB.

If you signup to the GSB forum to start your trial, you can find the help file and the documentation here:
https://trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17 (on page 1).

Aad

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I have been using Adaptrade Builder for a couple of years to try and generate profitable strategies out of samples.

Most of the Adaptrade Builder strategies I selected and tested (walk forward, monte carlo and so on) weren't profitable out of sample.

But Adaptrade Builder was able to build a swing strategy on NG in January this year that has been proftable until now, so that's good.

Peter Zwag ( Genetic System Builder for Tradestation and MultiCharts ) has just released software called GSB (genetic system builder).
Had a free trail period and bought the software. The results on stock indices are just amazing. Far better than I have been able to develop myself or with Adaptrade Builder.

For example:
ES.D 1997-2017. Daytrading strategy. Roundturn comm+slip 30 USD, stoploss 350 USD, 100k net profit, DD 4k.
If someone is interested I can send the TS report, so you can see the results in detail.

Hi, what is your relationship to https://trademaid.info?

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Hi tturner86,

Trademaid.info is the website where traders can download the GSB software.
I found this software last year and like it very much.

Finally after years of searching and testing I am making profits with trading.

Aad

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Hi tturner86,

Trademaid.info is the website where traders can download the GSB software.
I found this software last year and like it very much.

Finally after years of searching and testing I am making profits with trading.

Aad

Got it, thank you for clarifying.

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Could u try spy, long and short on a 15min? Not sure about stop. Can u optimise the stop to get best results?


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Hi iq200,

Regarding your request from September 2018.

GSB was able to develop a bunch of good strategies on SPY.
I took 30 minute bars. Starting date: June 2000.
I don't trade SPY, so I don't know the market orders slippage, but used 0.02 USD per stock per side.
So 0.04 USD round turn per stock.

Attached is the equity chart of one of these GSB strategies on SPY 30 min.

Would you like to have the TS report as well?

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Hi iq200,



Regarding your request from September 2018.



GSB was able to develop a bunch of good strategies on SPY.

I took 30 minute bars. Starting date: June 2000.

I don't trade SPY, so I don't know the market orders slippage, but used 0.02 USD per stock per side.

So 0.04 USD round turn per stock.



Attached is the equity chart of one of these GSB strategies on SPY 30 min.



Would you like to have the TS report as well?



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Wow! Thank you so much for taking the time to do the run. I would be interested in looking at the reports.


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Hi iq200,

During the GSB build process I used the "Nth = 1" option.
And I used a validation period after Dec 31 2016.

The "Nth = 1" option means that every second day the trade results are not included in the in-sample (training) metrics, so the sum of every second day is a (kind of) out-of-sample period.

Attached is the Tradestation report

Aad

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