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Need opinion on system builder software like Adaptrader

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Would love to have TS code


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For example:
ES.D 1997-2017. Daytrading strategy. Roundturn comm+slip 30 USD, stoploss 350 USD, 100k net profit, DD 4k.
If someone is interested I can send the TS report, so you can see the results in detail.

Would love to have the tradestation code..

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Would love to have the tradestation code..

My advice would be: take the free 14 day trial and see what strategies GSB will generate for you.

And if you like the results, buy the software!

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Need opinion on system builder software like Adaptrader


I have been using Adaptrader Builder. In short, I use as a tool to give me preliminary feeling on the system I am going to build. It help to save my time in forming the scripts manually. But I do not believe I can get a system to trade right away from the software and making profit.

The software can handle range bars which is a plus. For some reason I cannot get the same results (PF, profit, win %, etc.) as shown in the software when I plugged the script into NinjaTrader, though the equity curves looked similar.

One thing worth to mention is the x-axis of the equity curve chart in the software is based on Trade No. It will make the curve looks better that that with Trading Date as x-axis.

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Need opinion on system builder software like Adaptrader


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I have been using Adaptrade Builder for a couple of years to try and generate profitable strategies out of samples.



Most of the Adaptrade Builder strategies I selected and tested (walk forward, monte carlo and so on) weren't profitable out of sample.



But Adaptrade Builder was able to build a swing strategy on NG in January this year that has been proftable until now, so that's good.



Peter Zwag ( Genetic System Builder for Tradestation and MultiCharts ) has just released software called GSB (genetic system builder).

Had a free trail period and bought the software. The results on stock indices are just amazing. Far better than I have been able to develop myself or with Adaptrade Builder.



For example:

ES.D 1997-2017. Daytrading strategy. Roundturn comm+slip 30 USD, stoploss 350 USD, 100k net profit, DD 4k.

If someone is interested I can send the TS report, so you can see the results in detail.



Are the systems you tested out of the box of did you write them ?
Does it allow you to use your own functions and indicators?


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I have been using Adaptrader Builder. In short, I use as a tool to give me preliminary feeling on the system I am going to build. It help to save my time in forming the scripts manually. But I do not believe I can get a system to trade right away from the software and making profit.



The software can handle range bars which is a plus. For some reason I cannot get the same results (PF, profit, win %, etc.) as shown in the software when I plugged the script into NinjaTrader, though the equity curves looked similar.



One thing worth to mention is the x-axis of the equity curve chart in the software is based on Trade No. It will make the curve looks better that that with Trading Date as x-axis.



I tested Adaptrade Builder a few years ago and the systems it generates werenít great when tested.
One of the limitations I encountered was not being able to use user defined functions or indicators.
That said, I believe it comes with one or more extra systems that are supposed to be pretty good when you buy the software. Not sure if thatís true.


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GSB - free systems on ES and NQ

New video GSB (genetic system builder)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNAEy1wYgho&feature=youtu.be

After installing a free trial of the GSB software, included are two free systems on ES and NQ (code unlocked).

Enjoy!

Aad

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Hi aadbosma. Are you still using the GSB (genetic system builder)?

Is it hard for a novice trader to create robust strategies and trade?

Thanks.

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Hi ssp729,

Yes, I am still using GSB to build strategies. I am glad I found this software.

GSB is easy to use, but it takes some time to understand how to best use it.
Have tried Adaptrade Builder as well, but after a few years only one strategy proved to be profitable out of sample.

Building robust strategies has become even easier with the latest GSB version.
In this new version it is possible to build a different datastreams,
verify on other datastreams and walk forward on again other datastreams.

I think if a strategy works well on different datastreams (this means different symbols, different bar sizes and different sessions), then chances are better that the strategy will work out-of-sample.

Recently I did some GSB tests on ES and built with price data between 1997 and December 31 2012.
Even these GSB strategies were profitable between 2013 and now!
Great out-of-sample equity lines.

There's a 14 day free trial, so just sign up to the GSB forum, download the trial version and give it a go.
Let me know if you need help setting up GSB.

All the best,
Aad

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Aad - have u tried it on equities eg ETFs?


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Hi iq200,

Sofar I didn't. Only used GSB on futures.

Setting up a test in GSB is easy. What ETF of stock would you be interested in?
Long and short? Or long only? Daytrading or swingtrading? What stoploss level?

Thanks,
Aad

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