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Julie Wade - J AUTO TRADING STRATEGIES (http://www.jautotradingstrategies.com)

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Market Wizard
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iq200 View Post
@Julie - Thanks for setting the record straight. Regarding performance, you have obviously done some research so could you provide some link from Ninjatrader & CFTC which say that you are not allowed to post performance? I would definitely be interested to find out the criteria needed to post performance.
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iq

iq - I am not setting any record straight. Kevin is right about vendors touting trading strategies and then won't back up any claim regarding them. I offer a trading template for BloodHound users, not a trading strategy. i don't claim you will get any performance. For what I am doing, the risk and the strategy is the traders. As far as the language you want to see, it's in the NinjaTrader vendor agreement or you can find it on the CFTC site.

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jlwade123 View Post
A I am also a NinjaTrader vendor, and am not allowed by my agreement with NinjaTrader to post performance.


Can you show the part of the agreement with Ninja that actually states that, or are you conveniently not allowed to post the part of the agreement that says you can't post performance, too?

I have first hand knowledge of vendors that show real performance, and are constantly being courted by the Ninja Ecosystem folks, so this excuse contradicts reality.

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This is total BS. CFTC does not prevent you from showing real performance. That is just an excuse many vendors make, but it is phony.

Kevin, I am sure there is, I have seen it. I will find it and post it.

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Can you show the part of the agreement with Ninja that actually states that, or are you conveniently not allowed to post the part of the agreement that says you can't post performance, too?

I have first hand knowledge of vendors that show real performance, and are constantly being courted by the Ninja Ecosystem folks, so this excuse contradicts reality.

Yes, I will post it. I'm not sure why all the animosity - are you chasing off your competition here?

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Yes, I will post it. I'm not sure why all the animosity - are you chasing off your competition here?

No animosity at all, just trying to set the record straight.

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Yes, I will post it. I'm not sure why all the animosity - are you chasing off your competition here?

There is no animosity. If you're selling a product and an expensive product at that, there should be some kind of assurance or guarantee that customers will achieve a certain performance and give them value for money. Otherwise all you're doing is just taking figures out of a magic hat. It's in your interest.
Are you telling us that YOU would buy any consumer product without seeing or validating that it works ??

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No animosity at all, just trying to set the record straight.

This portion of language is from the Vendor Guidelines for third-party vendors in the NinjaTrader Ecosystem. As you can clearly see, we are not allowed to post any specific numerical or statistical information about the past performance of any actual accounts.

My BloodHound templates are not "a strategy" per se. They are a guideline template for detetecting a trend condition. I have a 3 part template system. This is not a buy here and use this much risk type of system. So what I am doing doesn't even count anyway. Like I said, I believe in what I'm doing or I would not be doing it. I would love to chat with you some time and talk trading. Please contact me anytime. I would love it. I have customized the Market Analyzer to show a higher time frame trending condition on the Weekly Daily 60 and 15 minute charts, which allow me to drill down to a lower time frame and look for reversals in that direction. Not rocket science.

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This portion of language is from the Vendor Guidelines for third-party vendors in the NinjaTrader Ecosystem. As you can clearly see, we are not allowed to post any specific numerical or statistical information about the past performance of any actual accounts.


Thanks, but let's be clear here what it says. It says you cannot post real performance UNLESS (marked in blue) you do it in a correct way.

So, the agreement allows posting of real performance, IF you present results properly.


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kevinkdog View Post
Thanks, but let's be clear here what it says. It says you cannot post real performance UNLESS (marked in blue) you do it in a correct way.

So, the agreement allows posting of real performance, IF you present results properly.


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LOL you beat me to it! I was about to point out the same!

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iq200 View Post
LOL you beat me to it! I was about to point out the same!

No, no no. There's more to it than that Kevin. I'll Skype you.

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