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 CHRISBOW 
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Has anyone taken Gary Nordens scalpers courses as there is no information from anyone who has taken his course and given any feed back on it, this has been asked numerous times and no one has ever come back saying they had taken the courses, NO ONE that seems very very unusual, he is all over the internet claiming 25 years under his belt as a pit trader but no one has ever said they have taken his courses and this was asked back in 2005 by 6 different people and they got nothing back ..... weird because teachers always upset someone and they tear them to pieces in reviews but Norden has got no reviews positive or negative and he has supposed to have been on the teaching circuit for years.
Please help as I have been ripped of numerous times in the past so I would like any info to guide me in the right direction.

Thanks guys Chris

PS This was asked in 2012 NOTHING CAME BACK

Hi there Jamo,
Interested if you have decided to go ahead with this course - I too have tried to get some feedback from previous students with little luck. Assuming no one has done the course or that people don't want to let the cat out of the bag. Generally people will soon post feedback if the course was rubbish but not the other way round.
I am very interested in pursuing Flow trading and have DOM quite a bit of digging around. PM me if you want to have a chat about this.
Cheers.



alocineel, Feb 27, 2012

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Has anyone taken Gary Nordens scalpers courses as there is no information from anyone who has taken his course and given any feed back on it, this has been asked numerous times and no one has ever come back saying they had taken the courses, NO ONE that seems very very unusual, he is all over the internet claiming 25 years under his belt as a pit trader but no one has ever said they have taken his courses and this was asked back in 2005 by 6 different people and they got nothing back ..... weird because teachers always upset someone and they tear them to pieces in reviews but Norden has got no reviews positive or negative and he has supposed to have been on the teaching circuit for years.
Please help as I have been ripped of numerous times in the past so I would like any info to guide me in the right direction.

Thanks guys Chris

PS This was asked in 2012 NOTHING CAME BACK

Hi there Jamo,
Interested if you have decided to go ahead with this course - I too have tried to get some feedback from previous students with little luck. Assuming no one has done the course or that people don't want to let the cat out of the bag. Generally people will soon post feedback if the course was rubbish but not the other way round.
I am very interested in pursuing Flow trading and have DOM quite a bit of digging around. PM me if you want to have a chat about this.
Cheers.



alocineel, Feb 27, 2012

@CHRISBOW lookey here, not sure if it's all the info that you're trying to find but...




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Thank you, Chris, for the post. I am interested as well hearing from someone that has taken Gary's training course. (positive, negative, both) I have read Gary Norden's book, 'An End to the Bull' and have seen a few of his promotional videos. I am very interested getting some feedback.

Thanks!

Paul

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I've been exchanging emails to get more info actually. One big obstacle i found is the fee. There are 2 options you can take for his courses.

1. 1 on 1: i dont want to say the price he quoted me because he might quote someone else differently. This will be 6 sessions, about 1-2 hrs per session, and unlimited follow up sessions after (sounds a bit strange, why not just unlimited sessions from te beggining). This is can be done either from his place or internet.

2. He joined some website and taking small group (i think less than 4 students), i forgot the website name but it charges something like $3000 or something (not sure).

Now, that's a lot of money at least for me. My gut feeling is that he's legit and I can learn a whole lot from him, but as you guys said, nobody ever wrote a review about it, will you take that chance? Very difficult for me to answer. Maybe one of you can ask his brokerage statement and get a better idea about it?

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See the guy is still the invisible man , he is out there all over the net offering his not cheap courses and flooding youtube and numerous webinars, Pete Davis from Jigsaw doing webinars with him but not one single review by anyone or any trading group or watchdog..... nothing positive or negative in any way shape or form.
This seems very odd or has not one single person ever taken his course who could help guide and educate people wanting to come into the very difficult arena of trading.
Please can anyone who has personally taken Gary Nordens course be kind enough to speak up and give ALL of us some valuable information that can help us and guide us, it would be much appreciated as I know there is a lot more than me sat in the background waiting.

Cheers C

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 geth03 
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i also did some Research and couldnt find anything, i read his book `an end to the bulls`, he describes a bit how market makers or flow Traders Profit from the Bid-ask-spread, and they are making dozens of scalps this way and Nickels add up.

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 tabrun 
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here is a reason webinar, I watch about 15 - 20 mins only as my first impression waste of time, hope this helps


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See the guy is still the invisible man , he is out there all over the net offering his not cheap courses and flooding youtube and numerous webinars, Pete Davis from Jigsaw doing webinars with him but not one single review by anyone or any trading group or watchdog..... nothing positive or negative in any way shape or form.
This seems very odd or has not one single person ever taken his course who could help guide and educate people wanting to come into the very difficult arena of trading.
Please can anyone who has personally taken Gary Nordens course be kind enough to speak up and give ALL of us some valuable information that can help us and guide us, it would be much appreciated as I know there is a lot more than me sat in the background waiting.

Cheers C

That's just it though. He's not really "all over the net" offering his courses. He mentions that he'll mentor people on his website, but there's not really a lot of push to it. You have to speak to him directly via email to get any information. Seems to me like someone that is more than happy just scalping, but is willing to train others if the opportunity arises. I wouldn't be surprised if there's only a handful of people he's trained, and I doubt any of them watch the forum closely. He has a well established pedigree, and comes recommended by reliable people. If the type of trading Gary talks about appeals to you, and you have the money, I would just go for it.

He's been involved with the people over at https://www.onlinefinanceacademy.com. They have a few slideshows to show what they are offering in their courses. Their spread trading presentation is probably the best starting resource on trading spreads that I've seen in one spot.

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That's just it though. He's not really "all over the net" offering his courses. He mentions that he'll mentor people on his website, but there's not really a lot of push to it. You have to speak to him directly via email to get any information. Seems to me like someone that is more than happy just scalping, but is willing to train others if the opportunity arises. I wouldn't be surprised if there's only a handful of people he's trained, and I doubt any of them watch the forum closely. He has a well established pedigree, and comes recommended by reliable people. If the type of trading Gary talks about appeals to you, and you have the money, I would just go for it.

He's been involved with the people over at https://www.onlinefinanceacademy.com. They have a few slideshows to show what they are offering in their courses. Their spread trading presentation is probably the best starting resource on trading spreads that I've seen in one spot.

Well said.
Instead of people supposedly sitting in the background waiting to be told what to think they should do their own research, including judging people by who they associate with. A person isn't going to 'claim 25 years under his belt as a pit trader' or talk about how he had a reponsibility for training people at the companies he worked at, or having trained a small number of individual people since, without a lot of people coming forward and calling bullsh** if it isn't true.
A more legitimate question IMO might be whether as a retail trader, without exchange membership which I assume he has, one will be able to get anywhere near results he talks about in his second book of 80% win, 15% scratch and 5% loss if I recall correctly, without his years of experience, and will therefore have a viable strategy with their own higher costs.

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