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Thanks @olobay for posting the official link to Anton Kreil's website with the videos. I'll watch the first one at least to see what the fuss is about.
Then @jamesfisher asks for the videos to be downloaded and uploaded to another site and @sleepy does so. Nice one. Just help yourself to other people's copyrighted material.

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I've worked in the City and Anton seems typical enough. These guys are certainly not stupid (blinkered for sure) however like I.T. consultancy lingo, it is easy to be too impressed by a presenter's fluidity and apparent depth as a novice to a field.

Regardless he has definitely reminded me to watch Mindhorn http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4799064/


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Anyone know why Anton Kreil doesn't "Annihilate" other Trading Educators and post a verifiable track record?

Surely this man is like a trading god. Look how Alpha & macho he is.

"Free markets work because they allow people to be lucky, thanks to aggressive trial and error, not by giving rewards or incentives for skill. The strategy is, then, to tinker as much as possible and try to collect as many Black Swan opportunities as you can"
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Seriously, what do you think of Mr Kreil?

"Free markets work because they allow people to be lucky, thanks to aggressive trial and error, not by giving rewards or incentives for skill. The strategy is, then, to tinker as much as possible and try to collect as many Black Swan opportunities as you can"
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Seriously, what do you think of Mr Kreil?

I do not know what he provides in terms of content in his course. I really did not want to watch anything else past the first 5 minutes on the original video that was posted here.


Google these names: Ray Dalio, James Harris Simons and Carl Icahn.
They are good traders and investors, and they often share their opinions and views.
Watch their videos and read their articles.


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Finally watched it. While he obviously a very big fan of himself I actually thought a lot of what he said was good information. If your trying to become a retail trader and you didn't know a lot of what he says in this video, then maybe you should reassess what you are doing. I honestly do think that the best advise for many newbee traders is to stop and find something else to burn your money on.

While there are a lot of bad apples out there, not everybody is a bad apple. In reality he wasn't really criticizing all retail brokers, he was really criticizing the market makers who take the other side of your trade, be that CFD's or Forex. For those types of accounts (I won't call them brokers because they are not brokers, brokers don't take the other side of your trade, they arrange for somebody else to) I agree with almost everything he says. It's feeding lambs to the lions and it's dependent upon having an endless supply of lambs.

As for his attack on educators? You don't have to look at many of the threads here to know that there are a lot of snake oil salesman masquerading as educators out there, and they deserve the criticism they get. Again while there are a lot of bad apples out there, not every educator is a bad apple.

But all in all, I think this is a self-promotional piece about how good he is versus everybody else. Saying that I have no idea whether his course is any good.

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Finally watched it. While he obviously a very big fan of himself I actually thought a lot of what he said was good information. If your trying to become a retail trader and you didn't know a lot of what he says in this video, then maybe you should reassess what you are doing. I honestly do think that the best advise for many newbee traders is to stop and find something else to burn your money on.

While there are a lot of bad apples out there, not everybody is a bad apple. In reality he wasn't really criticizing all retail brokers, he was really criticizing the market makers who take the other side of your trade, be that CFD's or Forex. For those types of accounts (I won't call them brokers because they are not brokers, brokers don't take the other side of your trade, they arrange for somebody else to) I agree with almost everything he says. It's feeding lambs to the lions and it's dependent upon having an endless supply of lambs.

As for his attack on educators? You don't have to look at many of the threads here to know that there are a lot of snake oil salesman masquerading as educators out there, and they deserve the criticism they get. Again while there are a lot of bad apples out there, not every educator is a bad apple.

But all in all, I think this is a self-promotional piece about how good he is versus everybody else. Saying that I have no idea whether his course is any good.

This is just a general statement.


In the last few years there is a race among educators to revel the "truth" to the new guy. It's all a sales pitch that consists of how rigged the systems is, "brokers are bad" and the same old "look at your retirement". Every educator claims that all the other educators are bad except for him/her because he tells you how the systems really works. It's a winning pitch each time.

Some of the educators are intelligent, and their knowledge is impressive. If you are beginner and listen to some of them you think you fell on some precious stone, and in your heart you must believe that he/she has provided some value especially if took the course/chart room/etc. Yet, to turn someone else's knowledge into practical and implementable method is a whole different ball of wax. Only experience and real trading will make you realize what is real and what will truly add to your knowledge to make progress.

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A good contender for the compulsory readme (that FIO should have)


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In the last few years there is a race among educators to revel the "truth" to the new guy. It's all a sales pitch that consists of how rigged the systems is, "brokers are bad" and the same old "look at your retirement". Every educator claims that all the other educators are bad except for him/her because he tells you how the systems really works. It's a winning pitch each time.

Some of the educators are intelligent, and their knowledge is impressive. If you are beginner and listen to some of them you think you fell on some precious stone, and in your heart you must believe that he/she has provided some value especially if took the course/chart room/etc. Yet, to turn someone else's knowledge into practical and implementable method is a whole different ball of wax. Only experience and real trading will make you realize what is real and what will truly add to your knowledge to make progress.

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I had a look at his twitter thingy, I wonder which monkeys Anton is referring to as orangutans are apes. Must be the students.

0.1% T-shirt.. wow... And he has an IQ standard curve chart a bit above that... wow again. No plans to be a customer for sure now. Utter lack of self-awareness /cheddar cheesy City boy humor. Trump's biological father is looking good though, nice of Anton to visit his idol's dad.

Gaslighting boys and girls, gaslighting.

Time to give serious thought to setting up a school... I'll never have a reason to get that drugged tiger selfie otherwise. Death Cigarettes comes to mind. I did not smoke but I wanted to when Deaths (and Death lites) came out in Ireland & UK.

Now having said that, I myself did start off with a 3k school (not Tim Sykes but yes there was an infinity pool shot somewhere). I guess it is part of the reason I have a morbid interest in guys like Anton. I was angry and frustrated with slapped together course material however the fundamentals were sound and I extracted value out of the situation. I would not do it again.. but..if your a land-on-your-feet personality its hard to go wrong.

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